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What are the hype levels for Godzilla: Resurgence?

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GG

ModeratorGiganFeb-08-2016 12:51 PM

Personally, I think the film could either be phenomenal for Godzilla, or awful. It's one of those films where it could go either way, it seems like it is going to be great, but then again you never know.

 

What are all of your opinions?

Good grief.

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KoldWarKid62

MemberBaragonFeb-08-2016 5:27 PM

Cautiously optimistic at this point. Really not a whole lot to get excited about yet. The poster above is decent enough, although I hate the font used in the American (Godzilla: Resurgence) poster. Just a nitpick from an illustrator/designer. The pictures that made their way online were underwhelming at best. I need to see something; a teaser or trailer that shows him in the context of the movie. Then I can formulate some kind of opinion one way or the other. This comes out in a little less than six months in Japan, so I'm hoping we'll see something soon. All in all, I feel Godzilla is back where he needs to be - Japan.

Durp004

MemberBaragonFeb-08-2016 9:47 PM

About the same as G14 for me.

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusFeb-09-2016 4:20 AM

OVER 9,000!

(Sorry, couldn't help myself.)

In all honesty though, I'm not sure many people outside of Japan (besides us) really know about Godzilla Resurgence. Plus, the next Independence Day is called Resurgence so I feel some people may be confuesd by the two titles. But whatever. I'm excited for it either way. I just can't wait for Godzilla Resurgence.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-09-2016 3:04 PM

My anticipation of Shin Gojira is at least as high as it was for Godzilla 2014.

One big reason is the fact that the filmmakers are students and sons of the tokusatsu tradition-and they're great at it.

I read somewhere that Hideaki Anno said that Shin Gojira is a movie that only Japanese filmmakers could make.

This article pretty much sums up why I'm looking forward to this entry in the Godzilla Series:

http://www.redbrick.me/film/shin-gojira-coming-godzilla-remake/

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-09-2016 3:20 PM

Another aspect of this film that I'm looking forward to is that Shin Gojira will be both old and new. I expect a modern, contemporary film that addresses current issues and possibly events, but told against the background of a confluence of practical and digital effects. This is the 'hybrid' SPX/VFX that Shinji Higuchi is promising to deliver. And I must say that I am looking forward to the story penned by Hideaki Anno just as much.

All that's left now is the execution.

Shin Gojira is a retelling I've been looking forward to for some time. 

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonFeb-09-2016 4:41 PM

@Jamaal,

I can't agree more with that article. We have a dream team making, bringing their hearts together for Godzilla. And, when you have everyone on the same team, you get a Godzilla film that is amazing.

I can't help but feel like we're going to relive the showa era only modern this time. When Akira Ifukube, Ishiro Honda, Eiji Tsuburaya, and Tomoyuki Tanaka were making Godzilla films together, everything flowed together. It was like a river. Something that couldn't be stopped. 

When I found out these men were making Shin Godzilla, I knew right off the bat we were in for a treat. My hype isn't like that of 2014 but, it's close. Thanks for that article Jamaal. 

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/  check out my gallery of Godzilla artwork! Follow me on Twitter@thebigbadben90.

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-09-2016 5:37 PM

You're welcome, Huge-Ben.

It was a good read. I believe the writer was spot on regarding several points, principally, his comments regarding the co-directors. And I think you're right: we could very well be looking at another Showa-like era of Godzilla films, which would bring along with it a vindication and preservation of tokusatsu effects.

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-09-2016 5:57 PM

Dear Toho:

Thank you for making Shin Gojira.

I have a request: please consider a special feature with Supervising Director Hideaki Anno, Special Effects Director Shinji Higuchi, Godzilla Designer Mahiro Maeda and Maquette Maker Takayuki Takeya having a round table discussion regarding the relationship of the Godzilla design to the story and atmosphere of the film. This could, God willing, yield precious insights into the world of tokusatsu effects and kaiju filmmaking.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Jamaal

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-09-2016 6:01 PM

Dear Toho:

Please also include Moldmaker Supervisor Yoshihiro Nishimura and Special Effects Supervisor Katsuro Onoue in the aforemntioned requested roundtable discussion, if possible.

Thank you again,

Jamaal

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-09-2016 6:59 PM

I have some questions about the credits I' ve seen:

1. Yoshihiro Nishimura is listed as the 'moldmaker supervisor." Does this mean that he is the actual suit maker?

2. Katsuro Onoue is the 'special effects supervisor.' What is the relationship between this and the 'special effects director'? 

3. Since we've seen a poster of the design and (leaked) photos of the suit, should we assume that there is a maquette (somewhere)?

4. Takashi Yamazaki is listed under 'visual effects.' What exactly does this mean?

5. The books published by Shogakuken and others: are they usually released in conjunction with the beginning of the theatrical run?

Thanking you all in advance.

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-09-2016 7:30 PM

Regarding Takashi Yamazaki working on the visual effects: what exactly is he doing? What does it involve?

Just curious. I think he's a great talent and I'm happy he's working on Shin Gojira.

Another impressive talent contributing to this most anticipated Godzilla.

Thank you, Toho.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonFeb-10-2016 4:31 PM

@Jamaal,

1. No idea.

2. Katsura Onoue worked with Shinji Higuchi on Attack on Titan live action. He is Higuchi' s prodigy and is more than likely handling the visual effects.

3. There must be and Toho is keeping very quiet about it.

4. Takashi Yamazaki is un-confirmed at this point. If you saw something like IMB or IMBD, it's unreliable. You and I could give ourselves credit to the film on that website.

5. Usually. 

 

Hope those answers help out a bit. 

You know, I actually got to talk with a few Japanese owners of the company I work for today and I told them about Shin Godzilla. They never knew it was being made or seen the pictures. I was glad to show them of course. One of them asked me, "who is making Shin Godzilla? " I told them that Hideaki Anno was directing and Shinji Higuchi was directing the special effects. Boy o boy did their eyes pop out of their sockets and their mouths hit the floor. After witnessing this today, I now know that this is going to be an amazing movie. One said "Ah, Hideaki Anno directing, this Gojira is going to be a true nightmare." I wish you were here when this happened. We talked all day about tokusatsu and Shin Godzilla. What a day. 

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/  check out my gallery of Godzilla artwork! Follow me on Twitter@thebigbadben90.

Something Real

MemberGodzillaFeb-10-2016 7:42 PM

GORILLAGODZILLA - I happen to believe that the hype for Shin-Gojira is moderate to high. Everyone wants this new film to be fantastic; however, there are those who prefer to step back and watch before drawing any decisive opinions. I am very much excited for this new version of Godzilla! With luck, we'll the monster we so dearly crave! :)

Something Real

MemberGodzillaFeb-10-2016 7:47 PM

JAMAAL - With luck, we will see an amazing return from Toho! My greatest desire is to see this new, monstrous iteration of Godzilla tearing through Tokyo at night - much like the original! The horrid disfigurement of the monster would only be apparent in brief moats of light or flashes of lightning! :)

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-10-2016 9:21 PM

HUGE-BEN: Thanks for the answers. I'm just somewhat more curious about this entry than others, I guess. I mean, look at the talent involved! The reaction of the people at your workplace is telling, I think. Getting Anno and Higuchi for this film is huge, seismic, even.  Hopefully, they've been given the room and freedom they need to work their craft. I have a feeling they have. It's a new Toho, by all indications. I just hope that the process of making Shin Gojira is being meticulously recorded and journaled. We really could use coverage like that provided by Norman England during the making of GMK. There were photographs-a lot of photographs. There were statements and insights provided by the staff and crew, letting us see and understand what they actually do. We got to hear from modelmakers, scripters, assistant directors, the suit actors and more. Sometimes the narratives were a little too good! I actually felt some fatigue after reading about how the crew was laboring to complete the film. One of Shusuke Kaneko's quotes was telling and moving, actually, as well. Kaneko-san observed after describing the great SFX work being done by Makoto Kamiya :

"I made a point to be hand for the SFX work of Mr. Kamiya and his staff when I can and I sit in for almost all their dailies. His contribution and dedication has built a high level of reassurance within me as to how the important look of the kaiju scenes will turn out. Mr.Kamiya's ability has given me a great peace of mind on the part of the SFX scenes.

"Live-action shooting is now almost a third of the way complete, but there is still a lot more to be done. At times I feel very exhausted. However, I have reached a point where I have gotten used to the long hours and long periods of concentration and feel at home within them. I am truly having a great time working on GMK."

Shusuke Kaneko, June 8, 2001 

From the Shusuke Kaneko Information Webpage

I, as a fan, who loves this genre, art form, series and character, would like to get to know Shin Gojira in this manner.

 

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonFeb-11-2016 4:43 PM

@Jamaal,

You're very welcome for the answers. As more information comes out I'll be sure to let you know. And, thank you for the quotes from the directors of Gmk. 

"The reaction of the people at your workplace is telling, I think." Well, I got to talk with the main owner of the company today who not only is taking off in July to go back to Japan to witness Shin Godzilla but also has actually meet Shinji Higuchi and Hideaki Anno. He showed me some pictures of him sitting next to them both when Shinji Higuchi was working on Gamera 3 and Hideaki Anno at a local bar. He told me exactly what these men are capable of (of course I know already what Shinji Higuchi can do) and he said that Godzilla is in the best hands that Toho can grab. 

I'm really eager to go to Japan myself to see this movie after what he had told me. 

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/  check out my gallery of Godzilla artwork! Follow me on Twitter@thebigbadben90.

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-12-2016 5:39 PM

"He told me exactly what these men are capable of (of course I know already what Shinji Higuchi can do) and he said that Godzilla is in the best hands that Toho can grab." 

Yes, thank you again, Toho. This was a tremendous pickup, so to speak.

Anno and Higuchi directing Godzilla! I haven't been this excited about a Godzilla film since GMK was annouced with Shusuke Kaneko directing. So, it's really been nothing but great news, one item after another. First the annoucement about the film itself. Then the selection of the directors. Then their statements about Godzilla and the film. Then the news about Mahiro Maeda designing Godzilla (has this been confirmed?). Then the cast and their reactions to being in a Godzilla film. Then there's the whole newness and freshness that surrounds this project ("Goji-Con").

It is really great and satisfying to be able to look forward to something I thought was way, way off.

These are interesting times.

GG

ModeratorGiganFeb-16-2016 6:52 AM

I relatively agree with what everyone here has stated.

Good grief.

Chris

AdminSpaceGodzillaFeb-17-2016 6:36 PM

I'm stoked, personally. I think most of Western audiences will expect it to fall in line with Legendary's Godzilla, so that may put a damper on reviews on this side of the globe, but I'm excited to see a new reinvention of the King of the Monsters from Toho.

Hyped for: Alien: Romulus | Badlands (Predator 6) | Cloverfield 4

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-17-2016 10:33 PM

SOMETHING REAL: I see that you've mentioned night time scenes for Shin Gojira. I totally agree. What a great and atmospheric backdrop to showcase a terrifying iteration of Godzilla. Just like 1954! I'm kind of counting on this, actually.

Also, a few well-placed tips-of-the-hat would be welcome. Like Godzilla peering over a hill. I also hope to see some jaw-dropping daytime shots.

 

Something Real

MemberGodzillaFeb-18-2016 4:40 AM

JAMAAL - Absolutely! The nighttime shots should give us a good look at the monster himself, but leave just enough to the imagination! The daytime shots, I hope, will be filmed in such a way as to truly display the nightmarish and tragic elements of Godzilla! I am so very excited to see what is to come in the near future! :)

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-18-2016 10:48 PM

I'm hoping that Shin Gojira will be a film, an experience that I can go to and be affected by in a manner similar to the 1954 film. I believe it's important that the filmmakers have within them a vision they want to share and articulate. This is important for those who will commit to seeing Shin Gojira. It's a movie, so it should entertain and provide a spectacle. But it should and can move and involve the audience, while taking them on a journey. Godzilla has a meaning that transcends special effects and creature violence. 

Something Real

MemberGodzillaFeb-18-2016 5:33 PM

JAMAAL - Well said, sir! I could not agree more; Shin-Gojira needs to evoke the same sense of haunting dread and remote foreboding that was set in motion by the original Godzilla! I want dearly to feel both excitement disquiet as I sit in the theater. However, if I must take a box of tissues in my purse due to moving moments, I will be quite pleased with that as well! :)

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-19-2016 3:23 PM

I wonder if there will be a character somewhat reminiscent of the dignified and thoughtful Dr. Kyohei Yamane in Gojira? Takashi Shimura's very presence lent a gravity and seriousness to that film that help to convince this observer of the momentous nature of the events unfolding in the story. For me, Dr.Yamane help to 'sell' the whole idea of what was taking place in Tokyo. Sometimes, it was with just a look or expression. Or his body language as was the case when he came home and mentioned in dejection, how all that they can think about is killing Godzilla. The way he sagged, he appeared to be carrying the weight of the world. And even though Ogata's objections made sense, one could see, to some degree, Dr. Yamane's argument by the way he expressed it, and with such sincerity. Godzilla was a unique chance to study something never seen before. 

The human portrayals in Gojira are just as important as the SFX/VFX scenes. For without them, it's just another 1950's monster on the loose movie.

I hope we will get something comparable to this in Shin Gojira.

 

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonFeb-19-2016 3:56 PM

We also could use something similar to the ceremonial dance in Shin Godzilla. The ceremonial dance in 54' also added a mystic and a shrouded mystery behind the creature. 

And, I would also love another quote similar to what the old man of Odo island said.

"It's the name of a monster who lives in the sea. It'll come to the shore to feed on humankind to survive. In the old days, we used to sacrifice women to prevent him from eating us all. Now, this exorcism ceremonial dance is all that remains of the old traditions." 

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/  check out my gallery of Godzilla artwork! Follow me on Twitter@thebigbadben90.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonFeb-19-2016 4:03 PM

I can't help but feel like the image of Shin Godzilla also sends a message of people suffering. It's like a clear warning of death is here and we can't do anything about it. 

He's been conflicted and deceived by our arrogance and is now the "true" punishment of it. A living, breathing entity not just to be wrecking our world but, to make us suffer for what has happened to him. A natural creature turned into an unnatural kaiju. 

I really hope that Shinji Higuchi delivers the SFX/VFX to where it makes Shin Godzilla so life like that tokusatsu may never be the same and by that, I mean to where everything is so beautifully put together.

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/  check out my gallery of Godzilla artwork! Follow me on Twitter@thebigbadben90.

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-19-2016 5:19 PM

Huge-Ben said:

"I really hope that Shinji Higuchi delivers the SFX/VFX to where it makes Shin Godzilla so life like that tokusatsu may never be the same and by that, I mean to where everything is so beautifully put together."

This, I believe, is the hope of every fan and admirer of this art form. Personally, I want effects that are 'convincing' enough so that the audience can but into the story and believe what they're seeing. But, at the same time, I want to see the flourishes and looks that characterize tokusatsu filmmmaking.

Huge-Ben also said:

"We also could use something similar to the ceremonial dance in Shin Godzilla. The ceremonial dance in 54' also added a mystic and a shrouded mystery behind the creature." 

That dance, with those masks and movements, took this viewer to Odo Island. It was like going back in time (and space). It was creepy and atmospheric. And, it worked! I hope something similar to this can be accomplished in Shin Gojira, to be made part of the story and swept up in it. 



 

Something Real

MemberGodzillaFeb-20-2016 4:33 AM

HUGE-BEN and JAMAAL - The ceremonial dance scene is and always has been one of my absolute favorites! Not only did it present beautiful culture, but it served to introduce Godzilla in a way that made him seem like a remote and frightening part of our world! There was something eerily thought-provoking about that segment; something that made the audience ponder the nature of the beast within the film! :)

Jamaal

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-20-2016 6:25 AM

SOMETHING REAL: The night spent on Odo Island and the ceremonial dance was like looking into a portal into the past. The younger islanders had their doubts about Godzilla, as attested to by the derisive attitude of the young woman toward the elder's statement about Godzilla being the reason for there being no fish. The ceremonial dance was all that was left of old traditions and beliefs, which included the lore about Godzilla. I always thought it was interesting that Godzilla the legend predated his actual appearance by what had to be several decades. Had he been seen before, or, at least, glimpsed at? The old man was certain about him. Or, was Godzilla just a legend, which just turned out to be true?  In any event, it was brilliant story telling on the part of the writers and Honda to take us to Odo Island and have us spend time with people who may have seen some of the fires from the ship disasters, which were, to some extent, confirmation of that mysterious past you alluded to. The Ceremonial Dance Scene is one of my favorites in the entire series. It's indicative of everything I love and wonder at regarding Gojira.

I wonder what spectacles Shin Gojira will bring?

Something Real

MemberGodzillaFeb-21-2016 3:57 AM

JAMAAL - Exactly! If Shin-Gojira can evoke the same sense of wonder, it will certainly be one of the finest installments within the Godzilla pantheon! I certainly hope that there will be a scene comparable to that we saw on Odo Island! :)

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