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The MonsterVerse needs to embrace a darker tone

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sonictiger

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Even though the MonsterVerse has been perfectly fine dealing with a light-hearted tone with Kong: Skull Island and Godzilla Vs. Kong, Warner Bros and Legendary have tried and failed to replicate the dark tone that was used in Godzilla (2014), with it's sequel Godzilla: King of The Monsters having HUGE tonal issues.  I think the MonsterVerse should continue on, but now as I'm currently doing a rewatch on HBO Max this week I realize that the MonsterVerse needs to embrace a dark tone.  Sure, I already said WB handled the light-hearted tone fine with KSI and GVK.  But if that tone continues it'll most likely be like GVK with it's over-used comedy at the worst times.  But I think the MonsterVerse needs to be darker, deeper, more emotional, and definitely more thought-provoking.  But not R-rated darkness.  It just needs to be that level of darkness and emotion present in films like Godzilla (1954), All Monsters Attack, and Shin Godzilla (2016).  The films also need to be longer in order to handle this tone better, as it applies to human characters and delving in the Titans.  Runtimes for future MonsterVerse movies need to be 2 hours and 30 minutes at the very least.  The maximum runtime I'd go up to is 3 hours and 20 minutes.  All of that is needed to make MonsterVerse movies more fleshed out.  The human character development would also benefit from a more somber tone and the development used in a fleshed out runtime could make future human characters in this series better to get behind.  Honestly, I don't think a light-hearted tone is going to work anymore and it's for the best.  Legendary needs to go back to what made so many of Toho's movies beloved among fans around the world.  The MonsterVerse needs a darker tone moving forward.

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SasquaDash that is, of course, difficult to portray. So if I were in this base and I saw a 390-foot monster, I'd be scared and wouldn't even think about a beer. It's always easy to criticize. On the other hand, you can't please everyone. There will always be someone who has something to criticize.

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ha, yeah.

But unfortunately it did not work when the TAP WATER joke was used in GVK 

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I can well imagine. Unfortunately, I still haven't seen GVK. But the stories here in the forum let me suspect nothing good ... special effect, fights top but the others ...

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Godzilla Vs. Kong is overall a good movie.

There were just some things that irked me though

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I hope that I still get to see GVK. That is a problem here in Germany with our government, how the pandemic situation is handled. Believe me when I tell you: we are annoyed without end ...

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Mebo

I was just kidding when I said more is more, I was just remembering something funny. I didn’t make that clear.

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SarcasticGoji that's ok, unfortunately it always takes me a little while to understand. But I try to do my best

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We all try to understand things, don't take it hardly...

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not so anyway. if i don't understand something, i'll ask.

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I agree. That "cheerful" tone ruins several scenes in the movies. Inside the Monsterverse, we have the infamous "gonorrhea" scene in GKoM (I can't understand what kind of writer thought that line was a good idea).
I would go further, and make R-rated kaijus movies, in order to have more visceral fights, and to be able to pose more complex plots, without fear of "the children who only want to see GODzilla raping the monster on duty", and then they They complain with arguments like - "Humans are in the way" -, - "I went to see Godzilla, not humans" -, or the worst - "The plot is unnecessary, I just want to see monster fights" -. Children who ignore what Godzilla is, demand to see a disaster at the level of Michael Bay's Transformers, and complain when the product has something of quality, saying that it is boring.

Although of course, the type of Godzilla movie that I would like to see, I don't know if it suits Hollywood interests, I don't even know if Toho's, although I trust that if "World of Godzilla" is ever made, it will be fairly similar to what I hope, but better.

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Foreverwing Especially your last sentence contains an interesting aspect. Here I would be interested in what would have come out if Toho & Legendary & Warner had created the monsterverse together.

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world of godzilla is most likely dead at this point...

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I wouldn’t like to see an R rated kaiju movie.

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I don't know if you know this movie: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

in the uncut version this is the most brutal part of the season. I remember the body saw of gigan that makes godzilla bleed pretty bad. Today, this film would definitely get an age rating!

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NO R-RATED KAIJU FLICKS

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YES

"Do you love it that much? That... monster graveyard?"
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NO

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First of all, R rated movies tend to be focused more on adults, so it wouldn’t actually attract more people. I think I wrote a topic on this a while back...

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SarcasticGoji Godzilla embodies Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Castle Bravo, the atomic bomb, the horrors of the Pacific War, and World War II in general, the Consequences of Human Irresponsibility, and the Destruction of War. Okay, Godzilla evolved since 1954, and in the Monsterverse he is a defender of the planet, but not because of that, he stops being what he embodies. When Godzilla, for whatever reason, goes through a city, there are people who die; When he uses the atomic breath, there will be people and buildings irradiated. The presence of different active kaijus threatens the stability of the economies of different countries, and the consequences of fights are a serious issue.

 

A world with kaijus is a pretty screwed up subject, as well as interesting, and I think R-Rating is the best to adequately portray all of that. On the other hand, the fights between Kaijus are quite violent, but except for the heads of King Ghidorah, there are hardly ever mutilations. Don't think I'm a fan of gore or anything like that, but blood, open wounds, and missing limbs are the best way to show that X attacks X monster damage, and they can serve as a dramatic factor, from graphically showing what that the protagonist Kaiju is suffering, until having the gratifying effect of seeing that evil Kaiju suffer that caused so much damage. To show that sort of thing, a rating below R would require censorship.

 

On the other hand, there are Kaijus that obligatorily require Classification R, like Gigan. With those blades and saws everywhere, I can't think of a movie where I face another kaiju, without running rivers of blood in the literal sense. In a modern movie, I imagine Gigan as a bloodletter and ripper, who preys on his victims, and runs away with little trouble.

 

 

And as for what you say that R-rated movies tend to focus more on adults, what would be the problem? For my part, I prefer a thousand times a mature and dark kaijus film, which is not afraid to show the consequences of the attack / fight, rather than a film designed for children, adolescents, or the whole family, where there is censorship.

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I wouldn't mind seeing the MonsterVerse having a darker tone.

Ah shit I’m using my wrong eye again. Sorry that was meant to be behind your back

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