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MemberGiganJul-21-2014 7:20 AMIts Debate weeks season finale! Day 7. Its the final round and that means its the final monster showdown!
These 2 are the highest ranked on the monster tier list. Its the King of the Monsters 2014 vs SpaceGodzilla.
Roll em out!
Lets start out with the SpaceBeast.
SpaceGodzilla is considered a doomsday foe, He dispatched the original Godzilla anywhere they met and he nearly destroyed the world. SpaceGodzilla came from when Mothra went into space carrying Godzillas DNA on her wings and the DNA apparently went through a black hole and merged with a exploding star. SpaceGodzilla has the abillity to encase himself in crystals and he can fly althrough out the galaxy! He basically is made up of crystals! Wait can i like take one off and sell it for 5 million? oh i cant because is aura would kill me ok.
SpaceGodzilla has 2 giant crystals on his shoulders which supply him his power! He uses the crystals to create a projectile barrier which deflected Godzillas atomic breath! and it sent it right back at the king nearly immbolizeing him! SpaceGodzlla is not good a combat at all, he mainly relies on his cunning barriers and crystal powersources. Now lets get to the meat of his abillitys. SpaceGodzilla when he combines the energy from the star on his forehead and his 2 crystals, creates a beam that shoots out pure ionized Corona!
Now lets go into some science. Corona is the hottest thing known to man kind, Its the barrier around the sun, its hotter than the sun actually Corona can incinerate you if your within 50 feet of it. So Godzilla was nearly killed of course from the beam. SpaceGodzillas overall melee durabillity is not supreme, His defenses are immensly supreme though! SpaceGodzilla can create a transmiter powersource just by touching it as long as his 2 crystals are intact! The only way Godzilla could kill him was by destroying the powersource then blasting off his shoulder Crystals! Once SpaceGodzilla Crystals are gone he is vulnerable to anything, but it still took Godzillas spiral ray to finish him off! SpaceGodzilla is 120 feet!!! WHAAAAAT, 393 feet!! He is taller than Godzilla!! here is some awesome music to finish off SpaceGodzilla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsHI16qEvrw.
Now onto the King of the Monsters!
Godzilla 2014 is incredibly powerful! He on the general consensus is rated top 3 of most powerful Godzillas, right behind Burning and Final wars. Godzilla 2014s abillities is hard to really say because we dont know how powerful he really is! But i will go over the general strengths! Godzillas 2014 was around during when the earth was ten times more radioactive! He hunted mutos for a living. But when the permian impact happend... Wait let me just say this to some people, to some people it is not canon and to some people it is canon, they say in the awakening comic book that he was 12 metres away from the permian impact.
And according to the book he was unscathed. If this is true then that means he has immensly supreme durabillity! After the earths radiation faded he went down underwater to right near the earths core where he could absorb all the radiation there for an eternity. Godzilla 2014 only awakens when there are threats to Earth or the balance, He has incredible intelligience he is semi sentient! Godzilla 2014 was able to take multiple beatings from the mutos and it didnt do that much damage. Godzilla 2014s strength is incredible as he was able to easily push back the female muto with just 2 arms and knock her down on top of it.
Godzilla 2014s battle strategys are incredibly strategic he decided to step on the female muto and if that damn male wasnt there he could have killed both of them easily. Godzilla 2014 mainly uses his jaw for battling and his claws for the most part of grabbing and throwing. Godzilla 2014s stamina is also amazing as he was able to swim from the center of the earth to hawaii in less than 12 hours!
Godzilla 2014's semi sentience strikes again when he realizes that the way to kill the male muto was to hit him in mid air, useing his tail Godzilla 2014 did so and murdered the male muto. Godzilla 2014s atomic breath is questionable, we dont know how powerful it really was but from what we saw it does do alot of damage. If we want to use GorillaGodzillas electrical sack theory, then Godzilla has a electrical sack in his stomach which uses electrical sparks to generate the plasma and radiation in an ionized blast!
But the Mutos were holding it back because they have an EMP which stops everything electrical around them. So Godzilla 2014s sack was short circuiting and not working that well. But Godzilla was still able to use it but it caused him tremendous pain in his stomach and throat! Godzilla 2014s smarts was also used when he realized the way to kill the female muto was to blast her in her mouth with his atomic breath right on her regenerative organs to the point when the were dead.
Godzillas Durabillity is also amazing as he was able to take multiple stabs to his throat stomach and he was still reletively unscathed! Also he keeps his rule of millitary dont mean jack squat son. Godzilla 2014s height ranges, In the book it was 400 feet! but in the movie he was 355 feet! We can use these 2 heights depending on which ones you believe. Godzilla 2014 is a walking powerhouse and so his SpaceGodzilla,
but which king will reign supreme? You decide the debate!! There will be a stopmotion battle at the end of the day! This has been Debate week season 2!! I hope you all have enjoyed this series first 2 seasons! Here is to a season 3 if this one can range a good amount of replies like 10 to 15 i may release some information on the possible season 3. Thank you all for being awesome on this forum here is to the great debate.
Good grief.

JRR
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-21-2014 7:25 AMSpace Godzilla Would Win, he whas taken down by the spiral ray, And whe donot know how powerfoul Godzilla 2014 is, so he migth be able to take him down

TheGMan123
MemberTitanosaurusJul-21-2014 8:01 AMFrom what we've seen so far, it seems like Space-Godzilla's various telekinetic abilities would be his turmp card against the mostly melee-oriented LegendaryGoji. However, up-close-and-personal, LegendaryGoji, if he manages to get in a good smackdown, could potentially render Space-Godzilla's varying abilities useless through sheer ferocity.
As seen with his battles agains the MUTOs, he's relentless in an all-out assault, as neither MUTO alone could defeat him one-on-one.As well, he's tactically aware of his surroundings, and knows when to take advantage of opportunities if he sees them. This would lend credence to the idea of LegendaryGoji taking SpaceGoji by surprise by acting quickly enough to subdue him in a melee brawl.
As well, LegendaryGoj, despite being 10 meters shorter, is actually larger in overall mass than SpaceGoji, so his physical girth would make his melee abilities even more ferocious. However, if SpaceGoji gets a grip on LegendaryGoji with his telekinetic abilities, there's not much LegendaryGoji could do except try to outlast the onslaught.
It's actually a bit of a toss-up. At range, SpaceGoji wins, but in close quarters, things actually lean more towards LegendaryGoji.

JRR
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-21-2014 8:38 AMMany of spacegodzillas abillitys would be renderd almost powerles if Godzilla destroyed all of his crystals, including the ones in his body

Sci-Fi King25
MemberGiganJul-21-2014 9:23 AMWell, Spacegodzilla would maul LegendaryGoji. However, Godzilla could win, as he's larger (in terms of weight) and smarter. If he could destroy Spacegodzilla's crystals, Godzilla would have the upper hand.
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Durp004
MemberBaragonJul-21-2014 11:30 AMSpaceGodzilla wins. Spacegodzilla is one of the only monsters heisei Godzilla needed help during the fight with. Since Rodan fought Mechag before he got there and was laying on the ground almost dead when he arrived I don't count that as helping him. Moguera fought beside him through most of the fight.
The fact heisei Godzilla who in his own right is probably just as strong if not stronger than legendary Godzilla couldn't 1v1 SpaaceGodzilla that's pretty grim for legendaryG. He's made from g cells so outside those crystals his body can heal remarkably well, he has an insane amount of range weapons at his disposal to keep legendaryG back and if he ever gets close Space Godzilla can just use his shield of fly away. Legendayg doesn't do well against a flying opponent who is much smaller than him and had to charge at him, how would he do against one that can simply fly around shooting his beam, and throwing him around with his telekinetic powers. If Spacegodzilla sets on a base like in Godzilla vs Spacegodzilla things get even worse for Legendary Godzilla as not only does he have to be spart enough to know what to attack with it being a building rather than a monster, but he also has to be able to do what heisei Godzilla couldn't and actually get it down. The Moguera had to separate and go in the air and under the ground while Godzilla fough Spaceg to take down the tower. That's 3 different things coming in literally every way possible to take down a tower. No way the new Godzilla could do it solo.

JRR
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-21-2014 2:18 PMRodan does Count as Help to Godzilla in GvsM2 As He Gve Him The Spirall Beam, Witch He Used To Deafeat MG2
Besides Legendary goji is smarter, and the reason he couldn't beat the MUTOS whas because of the EMP so he is stronger than whe asume

Durp004
MemberBaragonJul-21-2014 2:55 PMOkay let me rephrase the line. Spacegodzilla is the only monster that required two monsters at the same time to beat. Mechag beat Rodan and then, when fighting godzilla solo it was pretty even till the plan devised by a human brain, much smarter than any monster could use, was put into action that he got the upper hand. SpaceGodzilla took on Godzilla and moguera at the same time and was still holding his own to winning throughout most of the battle, this is apparent as when he fought them both separately throughout the movies it was an extremely one sides fight both ways.
Smarter? Than what? He didn't seem that smart to me. The only thing he did was predict the mutos flight path(I've used the comparison of a dog predicting a ball landing somewhere to point out this isn't all that great) and in the process knocked the building over and onto himself. So what is he smarter than? Space Godzilla has shown borderline human thoughts, by the fact he actually came with a plan and an intention to take over. He's made from biollante which had a human soul so there's a chance that carried over into his intelligence, and the fact that when he fought he prioritized the building he was draining power from over himself since he had the g cells and could heal from the shots while the building could not.
As for the whole EMP hindering his atomic breath, never referred to in the movie, and this would be a key point, so I don't see why they'd glaze over it if it was cannon, and the fact he used the atomic breath not once but twice on the female muto which unlike the male which apparently can only use the emp on command, the female apparently always has the emp field around her. I'm not very familiar with the whole electric sack theory, but an emp cancels out electical equipment through surging them so by that logic the electric sack, assuming since it's organic wouldn't exactly be effected by a surge and could arguably be made stronger by it.

TheGMan123
MemberTitanosaurusJul-21-2014 4:10 PMIt's not a theory, it was in the novelization. The electrical sack produces an electric current that is used to super-ionize gases into pure and super-concentrated plasma. The MUTOs' EMP attacks cut off the connection with the electrical charges. It's why the atomic plasma breath couldn't be utilized to its full potential against the female MUTO, because it was still imparied by the female MUTO's natural EMP field, though it wasn't completely cancelled out since she wasn't concentrating it in her forelimbs and slamming them into Godzilla and sending the concentrated EMP attack through him.

Durp004
MemberBaragonJul-21-2014 5:22 PMAs I said the fact the movie never addresses that makes me doubt the cannon for it. Unless the mutos use a different emp than a normal one, the sack should get overcharged, which as I said should then empower it.

TheGMan123
MemberTitanosaurusJul-22-2014 4:28 AMEMPs can affect organic parts too, you know. The electrical sack likely doesn't work in the same way as the like sof electric eels and whatnot, and would be affected by the magnetic waves which are based around shorting out an electrical energy source. Also, why should the MUTOs have weaponized EMPs in the first place if they wouldn't need it against Godzilla? They certainly didn't evolve it just to disable technology.
ALso, the novel was co-developed alongside the movie. It's like with the official novelization of Pacific Rim.

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MemberMothra LarvaeJul-22-2014 5:42 AMYay SpaceGodzilla, but it would be a close battle
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