What if Legendary Goji is the most powerful incarnation of Godzilla yet?

Not sure how that is coming off rude but, whatever. 

You're missing the points though. So, Godzilla got stabbed...it's not the first time. He's had mechagodzilla' s finger missiles stuck in him, had his head busted open and neck sliced through by gigan. Got his eye shot out by kumonga. Had his whole right hand beyond destroyed by the toxic and acid by Hedorah leaving only bone. Had his hand penetrated by Biollante. And as you said, got sliced through with Destoroyah' s horn. Yet in some of these films without human intervention, he still came back and kicked kaiju ass.

^And in all of those times he either was, bleeding profusely, yelling his loudest, and falling over. And that was from only getting hit one time.

Also G-Man123 I get your point.

And Legendary Godzilla wasn't crying out in pain and getting utterly pummeled? If not for Ford Brody's interference, it was shown that the Muto's had the clear upperhand and were about to kill Godzilla. And then, of course, he passes out after the fight. Simply, Legendary Godzilla's feats, objectively, simply aren't as impressive as other iterations of the character.

And so he pushed back the Fem-Muto. Tell me when he Gorilla Presses her and throws her across the city.

I swear to God if I hear 'Samurai Sword' one more time...

They weren't sword-like claws. The mutos walked on hooked claws. The teeny-tiny Hokmuto was hooking into Godzilla's flesh, and ripping them out.

Godzilla was getting tossed around by a creature half his size and a tenth his weight, and another 20m shorter than himself. Legendary Godzilla may have had some fun, brutal tactics, but his raw power simply doesn't hold up compared to the other incarnations.

I'm not saying he is the strongest, Final Wars takes that throne, but he isn't a "weak" Godzilla. He handled things that other Godzilla's haven't. He handled creatures that melee, and pierce through flesh visciously. He went to toe to toe with two creatures ganging up on him, non-stop piercing through him with their "hook-like" claws.

Not sure if final wars takes the throne as "strongest" either. Heisei Godzilla picked mechagodzilla up in Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla 2 93' who weighs as much as both Mutos combined.

Yeah GorillaGodzilla, Godzilla was screaming in pain. So did 2014. In fact, Godzilla 2014 he has a building fall on top of him. The same as Godzilla 2000 which came first. He fought two monsters at the same time like terror of mechagodzilla 1975 which came decades before 2014 and yet Godzilla in both films was on the losing end unit human intervention. Godzilla 2014 also has a vapor like atomic breath like the 54' original and even Godzilla raids again 1955 with both of these two films coming out decades before 2014. 108 meters...8 meters taller than 100 meters of heisei Godzilla Yet heisei still came first. 

2014 is a melee Godzilla just like from 1955-1975 of the showa Godzilla which of course is Godzilla raids again to terror of mechagodzilla. Even Godzilla 2014 bleed just a tiny bit from his neck or gills area when hit by the muto. 

The most important factor here is that Godzilla in 2014 was hit by the atomic bomb and didn't reappear until 2014. Not to mention, Godzilla 2014 didn't retaliate against the military who were attacking him landing direct hits at point blank firing range when Godzilla in all Toho movies actually did retaliate except Godzilla 2000. It's almost funny how Godzilla 2000 and Godzilla 2014 have few things in common. 

Ben I didn't see in anything of what you just said correlates or defeats what I said prior. I was saying that Godzilla 2014 took continuous blows that went through his hide, into his flesh, and were ripped out by meat-hooks. In terms of blunt force he is weaker than most Godzillas, most Godzillas tank Earth shattering blasts to be honest.

But hardly any of them have faced a two creatures that stab them, NON-STOP, in their weak points. And please, he didn't care about the millitary, he didn't even feel them until they shot a explosive round straight onto his gill.

Huge-Ben, we can't presume LegendaryGoji simply disappeared after the 1954 bombing. As Vivienne Graham states herself, it was nuclear testS (plural) that were actually attempts to kill him. It's just that the '54 bombing was the one referenced most prominently. Plus, LegendaryGoji's CGI model is unchanged from 1954 to 2014, meaning the bomb didn't actually do anything significant, and it was at point blank range to the face, to boot. That kind of durability far outstrips anything any other Godzilla iteration has survived, at the least.

Also, wolfguy, if you look closely, LegendaryGoji easily lifts the female MUTO as she tries to pounce on him. That's a monster close to HeiseiGoji's size, lifted like a sack with one arm. Even if it's unclear exactly what LegendaryGoji's upper strength limits, he's much stronger than you guys make him out to be.

"Ben I didn't see in anything of what you just said correlates or defeats what I said prior." You can't tell me I'm wrong with what I have stated GorillaGodzilla. Meat hook like hands...gigan came before the Mutos. Gigan again, busted Godzilla wide open on the head and even sliced through his neck GorillaGodzilla. 

Even then, the Destoroyah crabs have piercing legs so does that not count either? 

@Gman123,

"We can't presume legendarygoji simply disappeared after the 1954 bombing." Yes we can. Little history lesson. Nuclear tests ended in the 50's by us Americans. Even Graham said "all those nuclear tests in the 50's..not tests." We don't see Godzilla until Hawaii. In the year 2014. So if he didn't disappear, what do you call that? 

"That kind of durability far outstrips anything any other Godzilla iteration has survived, at the least." What about monster x in the asteroid that also hit Godzilla at point blank in final wars? Living in a active volcano not just in Godzilla vs. Biollante but, Godzilla vs. Mothra 92'. That doesn't count either? 

The thing is, no other Godzilla incarnation has weak points except heisei due to the secondary brain. Saying he didn't feel anything from the missiles at the golden gate bridge isn't correct either because he was crying in pain before that one missile actually hit his gill. Notice any other Godzilla incarnation crying when being shot at? 2000 did because the missiles were new armor piercing missiles. Even then, Godzilla healed after each blow. 

Do you have any proof to say the ones G 14 was hit by weren't armor proof? By God if a 400 foot monsters was walking around, the millitary would use everything they had on it.

Also, you aren't getting the point. I'm not saying that Godzilla has never been pierced before, but each time it was only once over a long period of time. When Gigan attacked Godzilla he bleed profusely, compared to G 14 who still bellowed in pain, but still survived. Godzilla 2014 took a lot more body piercing blows than any Godzilla has.

Do I have proof that the missiles weren't armor piercing missiles? Yes I do. Armor piercing missiles actually go through any known materials and then explode. Those missiles in 2014 were exploding on impact. That's common sense Gg. And as a side note, I'll let you in on a little bit about myself. I'm a weapons enthusiast. I guarantee I know more about guns than you do pop-tarts. Why? My family served in WW2, and Vietnam. My uncle who passed away last year told and taught me a lot about guns, missiles, bombs, grenades, etc. 

Don't bring God into this conversation either. He has nothing to do with this. Except created the filmmakers who made these films but that's about it. 

What point am I missing exactly? The stuff you bring up is entirely "fan" output. Film critics, movie reviewers, and even the experts will tell you the same thing myself, Wolfguy, something real, Durp004, and Gman2887 have represented. 

First of all, G'14 has not taken more punishment or more blows than any other Godzilla. That's just false. And the Mutos were not stabbing him, the FemMuto was pummeling, pushing, and stepping on him while the Male was sort of grabbing onto him and dragging him around. Never saw any chunk of flesh torn out.

Yes, pound for pound, he's one of the strongest... simply because he's one of the biggest. But if you look at each Godzilla in their weight class, the others simply have far more impressive feats of strength, power, durability, what not. BUT, G'14 only has one film and less then half an hour of film to him. I'm waiting for the next film to see what happens. And it's not bad that he's weaker, he's just more realistic.

If we're going to go for the strongest, it's probably the Marvel Godzilla. While not visually impressive, he's the largest and strongest of all at about 190 meters.

Wolfguy I actually agree with everything you just stated.

Ben when did I ever bring God into the conversation?

Boys! Boys! Saints alive! Easy with each other! We are all Godzilla enthusiasts; there is no need to let our shared passion cause rifts between us! Each of you has made extremely intelligent arguments; you should be extremely pleased with the knowledge you have each evidenced! :)

No worries, Something Real. Besides, I can easily come up with counters favouring LegendaryGoji.

Huge-Ben, the Pan-Pacific tests actually ended in the early 60s, and '54 was definitely not the last test. As well, factoring in Awakening (and don't you give me that look, the graphic novel is marketed as an official prequel, and should be interpreted as such), we have even greater feats of durability.

As for the bridge scene and Final Wars Goji, easily countered as well. Look more closely, you see that LegendaryGoji is reeling back from his left side, the side facing the naval fleet. You can even see their artillery fire being focused on the gill area, and LegendaryGoji was fine afterwards anyways. And with regards to Final Wars's scene, looking at the actual crater created, that asteroid had a force of much less than an average kiloton-range nuke.

The destroyed Tokyo around it was already like that, creating the illusion that ALL of Tokyo was decimated by Gorath.

@GorillaGodzilla,

Does "by God " not ring the bell? 

@Gman123,

Actually in the 60's it was the Soviet union still nuclear testing.

Graphic novel being a prequel? Since when was it marketed as such? Just because Borenstein wrote the script for Godzilla 2014 and the graphic novel doesn't mean it's Canon. If that were true then marvel, idw, and dark horse comics would be Canon to the films as well but, they are not. Why? Simply because the directors, the artists, and screenwriters never lay claim to any comic book being Canon to the films. Comic books and graphic novels are nothing more than "fan" interpretations. Nothing more, nothing less. 

Saying they were focusing on the gills is complete horse crap. How did they know that was a weak point when most missiles were hitting his back and stomach? 

"Does "by God " not ring the bell?"

Don't get so butthurt over a simple expression. Not like he intentionally started some theological debate. Thicken your skin.

@GMan123

*Rolls eyes* Gill area... Not going through this again.

That was just an expression Ben lol. Okay guys we're getting horribly off-topic.

I see people arguing that Godzilla was weakened by the MUTOs and thus, render him a less powerful incarnation. I find it intersting that in the original script for this film, the MUTO's EMP actually somehow prevented Godzilla's atomic breath from working at all. As rival species tend to do - they developed adaptations to one another to give themselves a chance at survival. Thankfully this concept was not shown in the film because I'm sure it would have caused a massive uproar, but the concept in itself is interesting.

I think we're trying to compare two different angles of Godzilla. The Godzilla present in Toho's line is more fantasy-based, having insane, unrealistic abilities that make him an indestructable force. I mean, he flies on his tail at one point and uses his atomic breath as propulsion to fly...

Legendary's line however puts G in a more natural setting. So, to compare the incarnations is tricky considering they're on two very different playing fields.

I happen to agree that Final Wars' Godzilla is likely the most powerful iteration. However, he might as well have gone Super Sayin x50, what with the ludicrous power he displayed! :)