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MonsterMovieguy

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The average Godzilla film has up to 2 fights in it. The Meet Up and the Final Fight. What did Godzilla (2014) have? The Meet-Up and the Final Fight. In an average run time of a regular Godzilla film this would be just enough for a regular Godzilla film.

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Durp004
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Does the fight we never see in hawaii count? I mean I wouldn't put it in the same category as first meet up fights other movies have had. Even Monster Zero who gets a lot of slack for lack of monster action had a much better "meet up fight"

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i guess we could count even if we really didnt get to see it which is sad

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"In an average run time of a regular Godzilla film this would be just enough for a regular Godzilla film."

If Godzilla's screentime is any indication, thus far that is not entirely true. The percentages indicate how much of each movie Godzilla was actually on screen for:

Godzilla '54 - (8:45 out of 96 minutes) 9.1%
Godzilla Raids Again - (8:30 out of 82 minutes) 10.0%
King Kong vs. Godzilla - (9:15 out of 97 minutes) 9.5%
Mothra vs. Godzilla - (10:30 out of 88 minutes) 11.9%
Ghidorah: The Three Headed Monster - (8:00 out of 93 minutes) 8.6%
Monster Zero - (5:45 out of 94 minutes) 6.1%
Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster - (13:00 out of 87 minutes)14.9%
Son of Godzilla - (12:00 out of 86 minutes) 13.9%
Destroy All Monsters - (8:30 out of 89) 9.5%
Godzilla's Revenge - (8:15 out of 70 minutes) 11.8%
Godzilla vs. Hedorah - (20:30 out of 85 minutes) 24.1%
Godzilla vs. Gigan - (16:15 out of 89 minutes) 18.6%
Godzilla vs. Megalon - (10:30 out of 81 minutes) 12.9%
Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla* - (8:00 out of 84 minutes) 9%
Terror of MechaGodzilla - (9:30 out of 83 minutes) 11.5%
The Return of Godzilla - (19:00 out of 103 minutes) 18.4%
Godzilla vs. Biollante - (16:45 out of 104 minutes) 16.1%
Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah - (14:45 out of 103 minutes) 14.3%
Godzilla '14 - (8:00 out of 123 minutes) 6.5%

The average percentage of screen time Godzilla has per movie is 12.5%.
The average time Godzilla is actually on screen is 11 minutes and 25 seconds.
The average run time of a Godzilla film is 90 minutes.

Matching Godzilla's screen time in the new film to the average run time of a Godzilla film (as we know currently) Godzilla's onscreen average would be 8.9%. Which is certainly acceptable, but 3.6% off the actual average.

The data of course includes confrontations between Godzilla and his enemies-- Making the fights in the new film fairly short.

It should be noted that the divide will increase since the movies are fairly long in the 90s and JokerCluster has yet to gather data from 1992-2004.

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Actually, G14's screen time was about 00:10:27:18 (judging by 23.98 frames per second video). Counted it myself.

 

That puts you at 8.5%.

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What was the criteria from which you counted the on-screen? I've heard from various sources 8 and then 10 and eventually land on 8. I've been counting the screentime myself, but have yet to finish. Been sidetracked by other things.

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I went by the following:

 

1. Any body part shown counts as on screen. It doesn't matter if Godzilla is shown in a close up, long shot, medium shot, scute, tail, claw, whatever. As long as you can see a part of him, it counts.

 

2. Reflections and silhouttes count, but shadows do not.

 

3. Replay footage counts.

 

4. TV screens/computer monitors count.

 

5. If any impairment comes into play (i.e. smoke, water, buildings, etc.) the only frames that count are the ones that show (again) a piece of Godzilla. Once that piece disspears, however, and no hint of Godzilla can be seen, the footage no longer counts.

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Well, 00:10:26:01, I should say. Just watched my reel again, and I admit I was a bit too generous in a couple frames concerning obsructions, particularly with the Godzilla's first appearance (when his scutes push away the battleships).

 

However, that doesn't really effect the overall ratio. It's still abnout 8.5% of screentime.

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God damnit.

 

00:10:24:17. 8.5%. Final answer. Not gonna change this time around.

 

.....You probably don't believe me now.

 

I'm just going to go sit in a corner.....I feel like an idiot.....

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Sounds like the right criteria JokerCluster uses. Although the smoke/silhoutte inclusion gets a bit hazy; if you will. We'll go with yours until JokerCluster gets around to it-- Simply for the sake of consistency. 8.5% it is. With a far closer screen time of 10:30.

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Astro monster has a really low screan time

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Let's count actual time on screen doing something relevant and 2014 surely jumps the shark. The Hawaii sequence that everyone gets so jacked about? You actually see him full on for 12 seconds! The GG Bridge sequence is 2 minutes and change, and the final battle constantly intercuts with the soldiers, and it's dark and smoky. I would love to take a stop watch to this and see how much time we actually see him, and see him doing something, and I'm not talking swimming with the navy. I don't know that I've ever watched a movie that featured so much cool stuff you DON'T see!

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@Natezilla,

No need for the GD, There are many different religions and cultures here on scified.

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Well, I didn't mean it in a religious sense. The phrase is basically the universal english slang for "Something just screwed up and I'm upset about it."

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^"The Holden Caulfied way," would've been shorter to type.

Your Godzilla screentime is off and you can't explain youself swiftly in a discussion forum about a Japanese giant monster... Dammit Natezilla, get your life outta the gutter bro!

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*sigh*. And that post didn't even show up.

 

You know what? I'm done. I'm done!

 

See you all tomorrow. I'm going to bed.

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It doesn't matter how much screen time he had, but I think its safe to believe that his screentime will never be over 30 minuts. But this is a good thing, the less screen time he has, the more exciting it is when he actually appears. The new movie is a work of art in my opinion. I **** love godzilla 2014 (*.)_(*,)

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G. H. (Gman)
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Appearing isn't enough. It's what you do with that screen time that really matters. Simply put, enough wasn't done. Close, but not quite there.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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^Which is why I personally never had a problem with Monster Zero. His low screen time consists almost entirely of him fighting Ghidorah, or destroying cities.

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KoldWarKid62
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@GMan2887 and Durp004 - That's been my point about this movie and screentime in general, all along.

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