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MemberGiganSep-04-2014 6:58 PMHi, so i believe most of us know (However it hasnt been confirmed) That Godzilla 2014 doesnt have G-Cells.
Well we all know that Godzilla goes down to the bottom of the sea to absorb the radiation, thus healing his wounds.
Well that is true and does indeed happen, Godzilla 2014 has a even more unique healing mechanism.
I read a few months ago and recently came up on an article where Gareth edwards and i think...Max borenstein? Said why Godzilla has those granite like skin texture.
Godzilla 2014 has been through alot of Muto battles, as stated that Godzilla doesnt just have these rock like scale's for aesthetic but it actually is the healing of wounds.
You know how when you cut your finger, after like 2 weeks its healed back swell?
Wait let me do another one.
Say you fall and scrape your knee really bad (Knock on wood) After a few months there is a scar there?
Imagine that but after being stabbed and bitten by giant creatures that want to kill you.
Godzilla 2014's scales have a mechanism within them that to heal up on a wound creates a rock scale that cant be broken by Mutos.
Also these Granite scales cant be re broken. So the more Godzilla gets harmed soon he will become indestructible. However that part is not confirmed to be true, im going to use it though.
So in Godzilla 2 expect alot more of granite texture, if Gareth wants to stay consistent!
I hope you all enjoyed my theory.
Good grief.
I mean, good theory I suppose, but I think I'm just going to go with, "he gets wounded and doesn't have super regenerative capabilities." It makes him more like the Showa Godzilla, who didn't have G-Cells and was just a tough fighter.
Granted, it doesn't make either one the most powerful of Godzillas, but it does make for more determined Godzillas who have to consider getting injured in battle and how to avoid it-- Unlike the Heisei and some Millennium Godzillas.
I'm also getting a little tired of the outside information about these monsters from the new movie. If Godzilla and the MUTO are capable of certain things that weren't seen nor explained onscreen then why bother bringing it up? The Star Trek franchise has a rule: If it's not seen or explained on-screen, it's not cannon. I'm sticking to my guns with that one for Godzilla. If the new Godzilla has "scab scales" or some weird power sack people keep going on about then they need to convey it in the movie. Not some book or interview only a quarter of the fanbase will read. [/soapbox]
Well it is true that generally when the body sustains an injury the cells that rebuild it make the tissue stronger than it was before
^Yeah, it just kind of sounds like a generic scab to me.
Although Gorilla makes a piont that the G-Cell thing has yet to be confirmed either. They could always write that into a sequel. But right now all we have to go on is the current movie, in which case, no he doesn't.
So your theory is that it regenerate like a normall animal?
Nice theory, well thought out.
But can I know why everyone is obsessed with the G-Cells?
Yes it makes Godzilla near immortal, but what happend to being a tough-as-nails, knock-down, drag-out hoss?
Well, I guess it's just an ingrained part of Godzilla history people like, and want to see return on the big screen. Personally, I'm fine with them not being around, because Godzilla was good enough without them. Plus, I do really like this "tougher scab armour" idea. It's almost as cool as way back in the day when I first speculated that the new Godzilla's atomic breath would really be him using his radiation stores to super-ionize gases into plasma C:
Interesting theory, but I don't really like the concept of soon Godzilla being full-out indestructible.
“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster
Every Godzilla has G-cells. They are, indeed, Godzilla's cells. Godzilla has always had a healing factor, it was just explored in-depth only in the Heisei series and briefly in the Millenium series. In Godzilla vs. Gigan, his shoulder and face are sliced open, but, although the blood remains, you can see that he does not have an open wound a short while later. In Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla, when Mechagodzilla busts his neck open, he stops bleeding from it pretty quick and seems to be fine shortly afterward. Godzilla has always had a regeneration system. In the Heisei series, it's made more signifiant to bring a more scientific view to how Godzilla's system works, and so they are given the official codename of G-cells, but that doesn't mean they only apply to the Heisei series. In Godzilla 2000, the Organizer G-1 is introduced as the agent his cells produce to heal themselves, but who is to say that every version of Godzilla has not had this?
I think 2014 Godzilla has this same thing, in addition to what was described in the original post here. I highly doubt that he sustained no injury from the H-Bomb detonated in his face in 1954, so he had to have healed from that, and since there's no scar tissue, that means full regeneration capabilities. It's part of what Godzilla is that he heals fast, so this one should be no different, assuming something can physically hurt him at all.
Teen Tyrant,
Godzilla's regenerative abilities were not written into the character nor explored until Godzilla vs. Biollante. The Showa Godzilla did not have a healing factor, he was just tough. Now Toho may have retconned this today-- I have no doubt they might say in official stats that Godzilla has always had a healing factor, but that's simply not true.
Murata and Sekizawa never wrote a healing factor into any of their Godzilla scripts and it creates a massive plot holes for films like Godzilla vs. Gigan and Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla. If the "blood is still stained, but his wounds are healed" argument held any weight at all we would have continued to see blood on Godzilla and SpaceGodzilla stained in the Heisei series. That wasn't the case, however. Even if it were true you have to explain away the fact that his deformed eye and melted hand did not super regenerate in Godzilla vs. Hedorah. Nor did his wounds regenerate in GMK and he had scar, described as a weak point, in Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.
Some Godzillas simply don't have the super-healing factor-- Which is fine. He becomes a little too invincible when that trait shows up.
Thank you Durpoo and Gman for liking my theory, rare you guys actually think i did a good job on these types of things xD.
And yes to Gman as Godzilla hasnt always had the G-Cells, they werent added until Biollante.
The Showa Godzilla relied on his strategy and physically overpowering his foe, not just completely overpowered healing, but being able to actually withstand the beating like Godzilla 2014.
Heisei and Millenium made Godzilla way to overpowered for his own good.
And Heisei wasnt any where near a good fighter like Showa, and millenium, well the only good fighter in millenium is Final wars. But that can be debated as he mainly used his breath and when he fought an actual opponent that fought him back, he got owned.
Basically, in the heisei and millenium series, they made Godzilla's Atomic Breath his only real attack, he would punch and kick and leap on opponents, like the Showa.
So basically Showa could defeat Heisei and Millenium in solo none atomic breath combat.
Maybe even Godzilla 2014 could step to Heisei in melee and beat him.
Good grief.
If not your traditional G-cells, then certainly some form of cellular activity that allows him to regenerate scar tissue (how else would he be able to do that), right? Plus, they're cells belonging to Godzilla, so they might as well call them G-cells (which is short for Godzilla cells, last I checked) even if they don't operate quite the same.
The thing is if the Heisei Godzilla can one-hit KO a monster from another universe, he doesn't need to be a better fighter. Lets not forget this is the monster that lifted a 150,000 ton MechaGodzilla by its head... horizontally... and then threw it...
Well, that's kind of like what GorillaGodzilla was getting at, KManx89 :/
You know, all living organisms heal up if given time and no major stress on injury areas. However, with GG's theory of the whole "scab armor process", it would be a good and much more likely expansion on the normal abilities of the body, plus it serves quite well on a practical sense too. Being able to recover from your wounds not only healed, but actually tougher because of it is a great survival advantage.
In fact, if this theory were true, I could see it being used as a reason why Godzilla in his sequels will be stronger than before when facing powerful opponents like King Ghidorah himself.
"Godzilla's regenerative abilities were not written into the character nor explored until Godzilla vs. Biollante. The Showa Godzilla did not have a healing factor, he was just tough. Now Toho may have retconned this today-- I have no doubt they might say in official stats that Godzilla has always had a healing factor, but that's simply not true."
Whether it was "written in" or not is irrelevant. What you are referring to is simply the mention of it being made. The fact is that in the films themselves, irrespective of what anyone says about them as they were written or directed, Godzilla's wounds healed in Gigan and Mechagodzilla.
"If the "blood is still stained, but his wounds are healed" argument held any weight at all we would have continued to see blood on Godzilla and SpaceGodzilla stained in the Heisei series"
Incorrect. That is simply a result of production, like catching a glimpes of the wires or zippers on the monster costumes. A healed wound would not make the blood disappear from the skin, so even assuming that your statement is correct, and I am not saying it is, it still provides no explanation for why the blood would be gone from Godzilla and SpaceGodzilla after their injuries healed.
"Even if it were true you have to explain away the fact that his deformed eye and melted hand did not super regenerate in Godzilla vs. Hedorah. Nor did his wounds regenerate in GMK and he had scar, described as a weak point, in Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S."
That was massive burn damage. That takes longer to heal from than a simple cut or puncture wound, which would only have to have the torn tissue sealed back up. Damage like what Hedorah's burns did would take hours, perhaps days to heal on that order. Godzilla is not like Wolverine and able to heal up in seconds. It takes time for anything but the most superficial wounds, otherwise Biollante and Orga would have grown their pieces back immediately. As for GMK, same principle, as the tear in his shoulder would take a while to heal, and then when everything but his heart was left, well, that will take a much longer time to grow back. The fact that his heart was still beating was the indicator that his body was going to grow back around it. Tokyo S.O.S. now, the wound that had the scar tissue was caused by the absolute zero cannon, and so it is a special wound. It could easily have negated proper regeneration over that area, requiring a more traditional healing process to take place which would include scar tissue.
Whether it was "written in" or not is irrelevant. What you are referring to is simply the mention of it being made. The fact is that in the films themselves, irrespective of what anyone says about them as they were written or directed, Godzilla's wounds healed in Gigan and Mechagodzilla.
There is no documentation, proof or consideration from Tanaka, Murata, Sekizawa, Honda, Fukuda and, above all, Tsuburaya that Godzilla ever had regenerative properties in the Showa series. The idea for super regenerative powers was not brought into the Godzilla mythology until 1989 by Kazuki Omori. To ignore this is to completely disregard the intents of the filmmakers. So if it was never thought of, written or considered by the filmmakers before 1989, exactly how does he have them?
That is simply a result of production, like catching a glimpes of the wires or zippers on the monster costumes.
The problem is the same can be said for your argument. When the blood washes off of Godzilla toward the end of Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla it was stock footage that was used to show him rising from the ocean.
That was massive burn damage. That takes longer to heal from than a simple cut or puncture wound, which would only have to have the torn tissue sealed back up.
Now you're splitting hairs. Biollante sprayed Godzilla down with acid and he looked fine.
Godzilla is not like Wolverine and able to heal up in seconds.
The holes in Godzilla's hand and shoulder after Biollante vines impaled both pretty much prove this statement incorrect. Or is it another convenient production error?
As for GMK, same principle, as the tear in his shoulder would take a while to heal
So the the open wound tears in Godzilla vs. Biollante heal in mere seconds, but in GMK you're explaining it away to be a different wound? Inconsistant argument.
Tokyo S.O.S. now, the wound that had the scar tissue was caused by the absolute zero cannon, and so it is a special wound.
Except much of this is fan conjecture. There's no proof in the film that the Absolute Zero weapon had any more or less of an effect on G-Cells than any other weapon-- Largely because the mere idea of Godzilla's regenerative properties are either ignored or don't exist in this timeline. And considering Tezuka was calling back to much of the Showa series, he likely ignored the notion of regenerative properties.
As for GMK-- Many of the film's visuals are made for metaphor, not the niche, psuedo-science that both Toho and fans enjoy playing in. I don't recognize Godzilla's heart a sign of regeneration, simply a sign that the spirits are still unhappy with the way the world turned and that Godzilla will return... in some form or another.
Anyways......... getting back to the original topic, GG states that eventually, with enough wounds healing up over time all across his body, this latest Godzilla could potentially become naturally one of the toughest Goji-iterations around. It could prove to be a good way to prep LegendaryGoji for his upcoming battles with enemies far tougher than the MUTOs, ones who could oppose him one-on-one.
Also, his plasma breath is no longer being impaired by EMPs, so it's definitely gotta be stronger next time around. Who knows? It might just be enough to make roasted King Ghidorah :D