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Is the 2014 Atomic Breath the same as the Showa era Atomic Breath?

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KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusAug-05-2014 2:04 PM

As we know, Godzilla 2014's Atomic Breath is awesome. But many have said that it wasn't at full strength. This may true do to how much energy Godzilla had after taking a beating from two monsters, but is there more to it than what we see. Let's take a look. The Atomic Breath is the classic Neon Blue we've all come to know and love. It is flame-like in appearance. And it seemed to do nothing more than badly burn and injure the Female Muto. If it was used on buildings, it may have set them a blaze and caused them to explode.Godzilla atomic breath 2014Now let's look at the Showa era Atomic Breath. It is flame/vapor-like in appearance. It is Neon Blue. It seems to do nothing more than scorch and injure other monsters in combat. It also causes buildings to explode.Godzilla Atomic Breath Showa eraIs the 2014 Atomic Breath the same as the Showa era Atomic Breath? I think so. I mean, look at it. If it is true that the Atomic Breath was at full strength, does that mean that in the next movie, the Atomic Breath will look more like the Heisei or Millennium era Atomic Breaths?Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla atomic breathGodzilla final wars Atomic Breath

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Godzilla316

MemberAnguirusAug-06-2014 8:20 AM

Well,  I believe that the Muto EMP basically proves the electric sack theory in my opinion. Look wise, Showa and Legendary look very similar but in power, I dunno

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TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusAug-06-2014 8:48 AM

You know, my ideas for a "super" plasma breath in the future got me thinking....... this plasma breath is already quite intense to the eyes, and only a pure white glow from the dorsal spikes and breath could surpass it, but then....... it might be a bit blinding, that way, wouldn't it?

Nietzsche

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-06-2014 9:45 AM

GorillaGodzilla- The FeMUTO was recoiling in pain, not being pushed back by the breath weapon. If it were being pushed back, it would’ve likely lost balance and fell backwards. Instead it was trying to get away. Also, when Goji was force-feeding it the weapon, it was never pushed down. Goji was quite easily keeping her in place. If it were concussive, he would’ve been struggling to hold it still.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaAug-06-2014 9:48 AM

All I can think of is if beam locks are no longer an option, then that's boring as hell... Who cares how strong the rays are if they're no fun? At least his new ray looks cool.

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MemberMothra LarvaeAug-06-2014 9:50 AM

I never understood the appeal of a beam-lock. It's rather lazy and visually, each of them are effectively the same.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaAug-06-2014 10:46 AM

^It's the aftermath that differs. Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla, Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II and Godzilla Final Wars all had very different outcomes from the beam lock. Flashing animations vs. spark bombs vs. mass explosions keeps things pretty fun.

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MemberMothra LarvaeAug-06-2014 10:57 AM

To each their own. I still dislike it. I’d rather the beams be more than blasts from the punch-dimension.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaAug-06-2014 1:53 PM

^Lucky for you, 95% of the time, they are in this series.

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Linkzilla

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-06-2014 5:36 PM

@GORILLAGODZILLA11897 Nobody is "downgrading" LPG here. I'm sorry that you can't seem to understand this, but we don't all base our opinion of how powerful a movie monster is on how much we like the movie it's from. Godzilla 2014 is one of my favorite Godzilla movies, and I absolutely appreciate how lucky we are that it exists, but that doesn't mean I have to pretend that he's one of the most powerful incarnations of Godzilla in any respect. He's probably in the upper half of them, but only because of his size; if they were all the same size, he definitely would not rank highly. I don't think this because of some dislike for him, but simply because it's true. The more grounded/"realistic" tone of the film means that he doesn't do ridiculous things like perform martial arts, jump thousands of feet in the air, throw things twice his own weight like ragdolls, fight for hours without tiring, effortlessly resist enemy monsters' attacks, regenerate at speeds that put Wolverine to shame, blow other monsters to kingdom come with his Atomic Breath, or absorb large amounts of energy to use even more ridiculously powerful Spiral Rays; since these are all things that other Godzillas can do (not even mentioning the stuff Final Wars Goji pulled off), LPG naturally falls behind somewhat in terms of power. This doesn't mean that I think he's one of the "worst" Godzillas, just that he's not a particularly powerful one.

As for the whole electric sac thing, unless the interview Gorilla Godzilla has mentioned is real (I have searched quite a bit and not found even any mention of it), there is literally nothing that indicates that it exists in the film canon. I could say that the Mutos' EMP ability proves that there was an advanced civilization during Godzilla's time, and it would make just as much sense as saying that it proves Godzilla has an organ that was only mentioned in a non-canon novelization written by omeone not involved in the making of the film.

More on-topic, I think some people seriously need to go and rewatch the Showa films and reconsider how weak they seem to think Showa Godzilla's Atomic Breath is. The only monsters I can think of that were able to just "keep coming" when they were hit by it were Rodan and Hedorah; other than that, just about every monster, even powerhouses like King Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla, were knocked down, staggered, or otherwise showed signs of really being hurt by it. Now, two blasts from LPG's Atomic Breath did hurt the Muto more than two blasts from Showa Goji's generally does, but we must remember that not only did it take 17 seconds to charge them, but each blast lasted about 5 seconds, whereas Showa Goji's generally last about 1 second; if his Atomic Breath was sustained for as long as LPG's, it would probably do just about as much damage. Because of this, I'd say that the answer to the question posed in the title is yes, LPG's Atomic Breath is just about the same power level as Showa Goji's... assuming the Showa monsters are at roughly the same level of durability as the Legendary-verse monsters (i.e. able to tank nukes), which is hard to tell due to the inconsistencies and all around nonsense of the Showa series.

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusAug-07-2014 3:37 AM

"Non-canon novelization"...... whilst co-developed alongside the movie as an expansion of the events in the film...... whilst also explaining other key elements not explored in the film, and actually gives some depth and expands on what we've seen........

If the novel weren't canon, then Godzilla doesn't have a plasma breath, nor would the MUTOs have any reason to have EMPs that are clearly not just accidents, but specifically evolved weapons. Sure, we can debate the whole "electrical sack" thing for awhile, but it just makes sense, and it all fit together rather nicely, really.

Had this Godzilla simply used a radiation stream like past iterations, he wouldn't have been able to kill the female MUTO, due to her being able to simply absorb the radiation. Plasma makes sense, and its general physics shows it to be extremely powerful. As well, using plasma reall does pay homage to the original Gojira, because its gaseous energy-based form resembles the original, and would logically melt stuff in a similar manner, only more dramaticallly and with more efficiency.

Whether or not it's going to be able to hold up against other radiation-based atomic breaths depends on its usage, if any, outside of monster-on-monster combat. It's definitely got to be more powerful next time around, unless some other giant monster is throwing around EMPs like no tomorrow.

Nietzsche

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-07-2014 6:10 AM

Gman, your reasoning is a bit flawed. Yes, they feed on radiation. But I could kill you by forcing you to drink too much water. Or by giving you pure oxygen. Second, the dangerous-radiation aspect is only part of it. The heat from it is likely doing plenty of damage. If I served you a hamburger that was on fire and made you eat it, it would hurt. Their body, and yours, cannot repair the damage quickly enough for it to be a net-gain.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonAug-07-2014 3:26 PM

Holy crap have i missed out. XD

Anyway as regards to the atomic breath, i really don't see any difference between each incarnation. Sure they made it into a ray effect but the power in my opinion is still the same. Don't know why, just every atomic breath scene has done some major damage to oppents and even killed them.

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Nietzsche

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-07-2014 5:19 PM

They're different in regards to how they effect the environment and the targets. The Showa weapon melted things. There was no real 'push' with it. Go to Heisei and the beam has apparently lost the majority of the heat associated with it, and it works like some kind of long-ranged punch, just pushing the enemy back. Legendary Goji, however, literally cooked the FeMUTO alive.

Linkzilla

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-08-2014 10:35 PM

@THEGMAN123 A bit of a late reply, but, first of all, you seem to be the only one arguing about whether his Atomic Breath is plasma or not... it has literally no relevance to anything I've been talking about.

Anyways, film novelizations are adaptations, not supplementary materials that give you more information about the film universe; they are different versions of the film's story, just as the film Tangled is a different version of the fairy tale of Rapunzel. We can't say that the prince in the original fairy tale is in fact a thief named Flynn just because he is in Tangled, and we can't say that Godzilla's Atomic Breath works a certain way in the film just because it does in the novelization, because those are things that were completely made up by the people/person making the adaptation. So far, you've failed to ever address what I've been saying about how the red pulse released from the Mutos' claws just happens to produce a shockwave (which would be a very useful ability for adding some extra punch to their attacks) in addition to an EMP, and that it's very possible that the EMP is merely an unfortunate (for mankind) side effect of whatever internal process of theirs powers this shockwave.

Besides, if this "electric sac" system from the book ever is introduced into the film canon, it's quite likely that not being impaired by an EMP will only mean that his Atomic Breath will have less of a charge-up time, not that it will become an overpowered one-hit kill move like it has been in some previous films; after all, the monsters of the Legendary-verse seem to be meant to interact like real-world animals (i.e. Godzillas and Mutos are like lions and hyenas), and you don't really see any predators that can just up and insta-kill anything that dares to challenge them, do you?

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