
High FLYERS Tag Team
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-26-2014 1:19 PMThere are strong men and weak men. The strong ones are here to keep the weak ones up when ever they fail.

Durp004
MemberBaragonJul-26-2014 1:23 PMSince it says installments I'm guessing legendary is now securing rights to other monsters for the future 3rd movie. Rodan Mothra, and Ghidorah are toho's most iconic monsters(behind Godzilla of course) I don't think you can add other big monster in the movie without weighing it down with a Spiderman 3 scenario.
petedj06
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-26-2014 1:57 PMMY EYES ARE FULL OF TEARS OF JOY!!! But seriously, this is good news.

gojifan02
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-26-2014 3:54 PMI-I-I I can't handle this anymore
RESPECT THE GOLDEN MIRU

Mecha Rodan
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-26-2014 5:15 PMThese are the monsters I want. Baragon, Anguirus, Biollante, Orga,(I just made his new origin story in my image) and Titanosaurus.

KManX89
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-26-2014 5:17 PM@ DURO: "Rodan Mothra, and Ghidorah are toho's most iconic monsters(behind Godzilla of course) I don't think you can add other big monster in the movie without weighing it down with a Spiderman 3 scenario."
Ahem...
Also, "Spider-Man 3" scenario? You mean the first SM trilogy or the rebooted "The Amazing Spider-Man" trilogy? Because Venom in SM3 is clearly above Green Goblin and Doc Oc from the first 2 films in that trilogy and Carnage, who they're saying might be in TASM3 is the most powerful of all the 'Spider-Man' villains just like Destroyah (see above) is the most powerful of all the Toho monsters (yes, more than Ghidorah). Also, Destroyah being in the 3rd movie actually sounds like a real possibility now with Ghidorah being announced for the 2nd film, and they could supplement him with monsters of smiliar stature in MechaGodzilla, Biollante and Anguirus.

Durp004
MemberBaragonJul-26-2014 5:33 PMAs much as i love Godzilla vs Destroyah, that movie is iconic because Godzilla dying not because of Destroyah. There's no question Ghidorah and Mothra are more iconic than Destroyah, they have too much history. Rodan's in the same boat, he had his own movie as an intro and has appeared in more Godzilla movies than any other monster besides MechaG(who could arguably also be with the top iconic monsters) and a baby godzilla(be in minilla, or JR)
And what I mean with the Spiderman 3, which also could apply to the newest installment, is that the studio was so concerned with filling the movie with big names, that I don't think anyone was happy with the development each character got. Spiderman 3, Venom got the stick making him having the smallest role despite being one of the series biggest villains, in Amazing spiderman 2, Green Goblin just came in at the end so they'd have well I won't spoil it for anyone, but simply say a way to follow the comic's version of Gwen, and rhino, well not much to say there, he's nonexistant. Having big names isn't always good if you can't develop the monsters. In the new movie assuming Rodan Mothra and King Ghidorah all appear, they will all need backstories, or some type of introduction, I mean think about the newest Godzilla the whole first act was developing the muto, multiply that by three and you have what a movie with all those new monsters would have to do.

KManX89
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-26-2014 5:45 PMOh, you mean cluttering the 2nd movie up with more monsters just like SM3 in the original trilogy was, I thought you meant downgrading the scale of monsters for the 3rd installment. Yeah, I get what you're saying now, but seriously, the 2nd movie is already pretty cluttered to SM3 levels as it is. Unless you're doing a DAM sequel/remake (which I definitely picture them doing for the 3rd film), it makes no sense to throw in any more monsters to this 2nd film, and the article did discuss adding more monsters for future films.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaJul-26-2014 7:40 PMTo be fair here, Legendary never said all three monsters would be in Godzilla 2. They've said,
and
It's not exactly clear if all three will be in Godzilla 2 or if the monsters will be spread over the next two films. My interpretation of it is that Legendary doesn't have a story or script yet, wanted to keep the movie in the eye of the public and announced which monsters they had the rights to just to create buzz and chatter. And it worked.

Durp004
MemberBaragonJul-26-2014 7:47 PMSee since they revealed that Rodan, Mothra and Ghidorah, would be joining him, and then made the post saying several other monsters would be joining him I interpreted they meant the first 3 would be in the next movie with more joining in the future.
There's also the fact hollywood likes to one up everything in the sequels so since 3 monsters were present in the first I didn't find it strange they would try to cram 4 into the second. Of course you're probably right but it's not unthinkable that all 3 could be in the second one.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaJul-26-2014 7:55 PMIt's not unthinkable, but at the moment, I think the plan was merely to hype fans with what they had. The only people saying all three will be in the next film are news outlets reporting it. I doubt Legendary knows if all three will be in the movie or not.

KManX89
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-26-2014 9:25 PMActually, it's my understanding that they specifically confirmed those 3 for the second movie at the Legendary Comic Con panel and others (such as Anguirus, possibly MechaGodzilla, Biollante or even Destoroyah) will be added later on for the 3rd movie, heck, it even says in the aforementioned article "Joining Godzilla in future franchise installments will be several other classic monsters from Toho Co." So there you go, it clearly says more will be added after the fact once Mothra, Rodan and Ghidorah have their go in the 2nd film.

Akagi
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-26-2014 11:04 PMI'm with G-man on this and if I had my own way-- well then Rodan and Mothra would get their own films and it would lead into a Ghidra movie-- marvel movie universe style.
Rodan is an amazing monster that deserves to be more than a co-star.

Durp004
MemberBaragonJul-26-2014 11:07 PM"Rodan is an amazing monster that deserves to be more than a co-star."
I've never argreed with anything I've seen on this forum as much as I do this statement

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaJul-26-2014 11:59 PM"Joining Godzilla in future franchise installments will be several other classic monsters from Toho Co." So there you go, it clearly says more will be added after the fact"
But it's not very clear. That's the tweet they posted after the tweet where they announced specific monsters. The other "classic monsters" might have just been short for, "Rodan, Mothra and King Ghidorah." There is no direct information from Legendary that says all three will be in the second film.

KManX89
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-27-2014 3:52 PM^Actually, they mentioned Mothra, Rodan and Ghidorah, and THEN went on to say other Toho monsters could join Godzilla in future installments. Notice the bolded words came after they specifically mentioned the big 3 would be joining Godzilla, so yes, it's direct confirmation they're all going to be in the same movie together, there's nothing ambiguous about it at all, it's called connecting the dots.
But if simple reading comprehension weren't enough, they lumped all 3 together in the teaser trailer for G2 at Comic Con. I mean, that's it, I really don't know what more to say after that, I'd say that's pretty clear and conclusive evidence right there, what more do you want? If they weren't gonna be in the same movie together, they wouldn't have been featured in the G2 teaser trailer, plain and simple.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaJul-27-2014 4:42 PMThe problem is Godzilla 2 is a, "future installment." There's nothing concrete in their words as to how the monsters would be used. I would also urge caution on calling the video at Comic Con a "Godzilla 2 teaser". It merely announced monsters for "the future". That's it.
It's a game of words announcement done in a way only a lawyer could love so fans can talk in circles exactly like we are. If all three monsters are in the next film then yes, Legendary officially announced it yesterday. If all three monsters are not in the movie, well, they technically didn't lie about it either.

Mecha Rodan
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-27-2014 4:43 PMI think it's safe to say this is going to be a new version of Ghidora the three headed dragon. Also I think the first part of the movie will be Rodan and Mothra's backstory and them joining Godzilla and the second half will be mostley King Ghidora.

KManX89
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-27-2014 6:30 PMExcept it doesn't say "other monsters, including Mothra, Rodan and Ghidorah" it just says other monsters could come in later on AFTER listing the big 3 that have already been confirmed. It also clearly lists Mothra, Rodan and Ghidorah as confirmed and then goes into the unknowns, why would they list them both separately if they weren't all going to be in the same movie together? Why even make that distinction then?
But, again, if that's not enough for you, the fact that they confirmed it during the panel and featured all 3 monsters in the trailer should be enough to close the lid on this "debate", it wasn't a 'Godzilla 3' teaser, it wasn't a teaser for both sequels, it was a teaser trailer for 'Godzilla 2' and all 3 monsters happened to be in it, so there you go. There hasn't been one time I can recall where a character that was featured in the trailer for a movie wasn't in said film when it was all said and done, and don't even bring up the unused Talahagan monster in the G14 comic con trailer. The difference is: that was just footage of a concept monster design and that's all they had at the time whereas the 'Godzilla 2' teaser at CC features real shots of the classic Mothra, Rodan and Ghidorah suits (of course they don't have the 3D models of what they'll actually look like redesigned on screen yet). It also has "CODENAME: MOTHRA" "CODENAME: RODAN" and "CODENAME: GHIDORAH" in the teaser, basically blurting out they'll all be in the film whereas the first G14 SDCC teaser didn't mention Talahagan or Vishnu at all except in the Oppenheimer quote that coincidentally coins the name "Vishnu" which wasn't its actual name, anyway, so no, they're not the same thing.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaJul-27-2014 6:45 PMIt's possible you're right. But it could also be misdirection. Like I said, everything that was announced in SDCC was built around the future monsters. The only thing that was specifically mentioned about Godzilla 2, was that Gareth Edwards announced he will return to it. Specifics is where things get muddled, because they never mention the next movie in specific relation to the monster announcements. I can't think of characters being announced that weren't in following pictures either, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. "Connecting the dots" has bitten fans of various genres before. Afterall, the new Godzilla movie was advertised as something different than what we got. It wouldn't be surprising to see Legendary play another round of deception.
Rodan, Mothra and King Ghidorah are confirmed. For what specifically? Hopfully Godzilla 2. Otherwise, I urge caution on fan hype. I'm glad some other outlets are doing the same,
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/26/5940259/godzilla-2-confirmed-with-director-gareth-edwards