Godzilla 2014s Melee may succeed previous incarnations

Seriously did I miss a movie?

@GORILLAGODZILLA77897

"Both the mutos when they were teamed could take out titansaurus"

And Mechagodzilla would just stand around and let them?

"Seeing how smart the mutos were to know to hit Godzilla in his gills im sure they would try and twist off his head."

They knew to attack his gills because of instinct, not intelligence. They're natural enemies, remember? Besides, figuring out that something's head is suscepible to specifically being twisted off is a bit more complicated than figuring out that you can attack its weak point for massive damage, and Showa Godzilla needed to use his magnetic powers to be able to do that.

"And im not trying to tell anyone that Godzilla 2014 is better, Im saying that his melee capabillities succeed a good portion of the original Godzillas."

If Heisei Godzilla and maybe two or three of the Millenium Godzillas is "a good portion," then yes, I suppose you're right.

"Also the original Godzillas were incredibley slow when it comes to swimming, Godzilla 2014 was releitively fast."

What? Once again, I must ask, where did you get that from? There have been only two or three brief scenes at most where we have actually seen any of the Toho Godzillas swimming underwater, and they looked just as fast as, if not faster than, G2014. All he did was outswim an aircraft carrier, which are probably pretty slow compared to most modern boats judging by how huge they are.

"I think he could also beat... Final wars IN STRAIGHT UP MELEE NOTHING ELSE"

FW Godzilla fought like a giant martial artist and was strong enough to throw another monster over the horizon. Legendary Godzilla is like a toddler wearing lead boots compared to him.

"Also all Godzillas have the abillity to lift and throw over Monsters that are bigger than them."

G2014 never even lifted and threw a monster smaller than him.

I agree with DURP004; with each post you make, it seems more and more like you haven't seen most of the Godzilla movies.

@PANTHALASSAN I think it's from some Japanese slot machine game.

I agree with everything Linkzilla said but would like to add

If you had seen Terror of MechaGodzilla you would know tearing of MechaGodzilla's head doesn't work anymore so that strategy would fail if they tried and he would continue to blast them. Watch all of the old movies fully then you can make posts talking about strongest incarnations, and actually have enough knowledge to defend your topic.

LinkZilla- Exactly there arent any swimming scenes in the old movies, its just them walking through the sea onto land, For example Godzilla vs Mothra Heisei, He was having so much trouble fighting the larvae in the water and he was walk/Swim in the ocean, Hence heisei is very slow in water.

Godzilla 2014 was able to swim from the Bikin Islands to Hawaii in 12 hours. Also the original Godzillas when they fought on land for the first time would always lose.

Also i wasnt talking about a tag team i was saying if Titanosaurus, was alone both mutos would get him. Also im talking about this Godzilla 2014 and the future ones where there are Definitely going to be bigger monsters.

But all forms of the King have thrown bigger monsters then them around. And in a melee fight with, "Atleast Burning Godzilla" Godzilla 2014 could win as how Burning just stood there as Destroyah cut him with the beam.

If you guys could read the topic im saying is that, In Straight up Ferocity melee or i should say BloodLust Godzilla 2014 can beat Most of the Heisei, Most of Millenium, And a good portion of Showa.

Watch the movie again and see how he fights. Also this is only the first movie with him fighting, Perhaps we need to put this conversation on hold till the sequel come out. Also explain this http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkl8i2_godzilla-vs-spacegodzilla-frist-fight_shortfilms He only used his Atomic breath, If he was fighting Godzilla 2014 Godzilla would have already tackled him.

Also i was talking about the original Mechagodzilla not Terror of Mechagodzilla. Also the main reason Burning Godzilla survived, is Because of his Supreme Durabillity And regenerater G-1.

Without that i dont know how long the Original Godzillas could last. I have watched all of original Godzillas i can take a picture and post it here if you want? Godzilla 2014 in a brawler style Tooth and Claw  action can beat alot of the original Godzillas. I still absolutely love all versions of Godzilla. If i didnt i wouldnt be making a arguement about the one thing that could possibly defeat them. I love reading your posts so please continue.

There's so much wrong with that post I don't even feel like breaking down why each point is wrong. Whatever if you want to think this is the best melee Godzilla and none of the points so far have swayed your opinion it's obvious nothing will. It's apparent even with the vast evidence used against this to the point you're making up stats like the amount of time he took to get to hawaii, despite the movie never saying where he came from, or addressing the time it took to get there.

BTW you keep using ferocity to describe him and that is sooooooo bad. Nothing about this Godzilla is ferocious, otherwise when he was attacked on the bridge he would have turned and destroyed all the ships and everything on the bridge, and when he got up at the end he would have destroyed the city rather than casually walk out his melee attacks weren't especially brutal outside of killing the muto which is no worse than ripping off ebirah's claws, twisting off MechaGodzilla's head, blowing up orga from within, blowing off King Ghidorah's head, or biting anguirus's neck as he tries to run away then setting him on fire. 

DURP004- shut up I agree With gorilla

So that makes him right because you agree with him? Okay then you're both wrong and I can give so many reasons why, but I think judging by how the posts on this thread of have gone from even gorillagodzilla going from "the best" to "better than most heisei most millennium, and a good portion of showa". You aren't the best by being better than most, you're the best by being better than all of them, which even he appears to have accepted this Godzilla isn't. If you have a point to prove the things I've said wrong then say it otherwise telling me to shut up is basically what a six year old would say when they realize they have no points left to make but want to walk away thinking they're right.

DURP004- sorry. I was in a bad mood. Now I don't have any points to prove because gorilla said every I probaly would have said

Durpoo- For the most part you are right. Convincing you is virtually impossible since most of your points are probbaly correct compared to mine. However i felt like Godzilla 2014 could beat them in melee with his overall strength and bites. But if you didnt notice the intro post says i was using the Godzilal vs King ghidorah heisei, Not burning Godzilla, Not final wars.

Because like i said if Godzilla 2014 were to knock over Heisei, He would finish him off, But thats just my opinion. But i do however think you guys are overating Showa. Showa would get beaten in the most part if it wasnt for occasions when Anguirus or Rodan appeared. Also in the first fight with MechaGodzilla 2 he knocked Godzilla down with his missles. And Godzilla couldnt get back up.

If Godzilla 2014 did that he would have killed Godzilla. Also this was a talk of straight up Melee, If they didnt have their atomic breath, no Regenerator G-1, Just tooth and nail. I think Godzilla 2014 could pull through.

Yesterday i watched all of the Showa Godzillas, And i still believe that Godzilla 2014 could defeat them. So on your question of Ferocity, I was saying IF Godzilla 2014 was more ferocious vs the showa and Heisei. His brutality could defeat them i believe. He would atleast force Showa to fly away with his atomic breath.

Gorillagodzilla777897- your right because Godzilla 2014 is 2nd fastest incarnation. Zilla being the 1st lol. I love heisei godzilla but man he has thunder legs, if you know what i mean. Heisei Godzilla was paralyzed/killed before by MechaGodzilla and if it wasn't for Rodan Godzilla would have died. So if they were in a death battle, G'14 would win. Now moving on to Showa. Idk if you guys mention it yet but the Showa G Is one of the smallest incarnations. dont believe me here you go

Plus Showa would try a dropkick and just bounce off of G'14. Or he would just hold his face while Showa g would try to punch him but kick missing because G'14 is holding him back. Now here are the incarnations I think G'14 can beat. '54, Showa, Heiesi, '84, Zilla, '2000, and maybe 'FW and '2003. That's leaves GMK, Burning Godzilla, '07. Why '07? IDK it was a huge version of Showa and '84 Mixed together.

If i may i would like to throw in some few things here. :)

First thing is first if godzilla showa all the way to godzilla 2014 were exactly the same height then my money would defenitly be on showa godzilla, the showa godzilla had better fights with his opponents, Heisei godzilla was all about the power, and the millenium had a little combination of both.

However in my full honest opinion, godzilla is godzilla to me, that said i don't think we need to say that this one can beat this one, only because the simple fact is they all have the same ability, don't believe me look it up on toho kingdom's monster bios.

Next thing is Godzilla 2014 has not been fully charged so to speak, we really have no idea on how strong he is when lifting his opponents or even buildings. For all we know godzilla 2014 "could be stronger than most" but for the time being it is really hard to say.

Also if you look at it the way i do when i say godzilla is godzilla, think of it like this. Assuming that i were godzilla for example from the first film, but the only thing the producers do is add few things to me in power and height for example. Does my character really change? No it doesn't what is the difference between the amazing spider man and the original spider man? Absolutly nothing. In regards though everyone these are all films at the end of the day, and we all need to respect those people who gave us what they could through their technology, special effects, story lines, the list goes on and on though. So really is their any point in agreeing to disagreeing about godzilla? Nope sorry but there isn't.

Hopefully you all can see this and can look at these films the way that i do. :)

Few things i forgot. XD

Godzilla from the showa all the way to the final wars film, godzilla was able to swim at speeds of 40knots, but g14 was at 33knots before picking up speed and leaving behind the military when pursuing him. So maybe g14 is also capable at swimming at 40knots. :)

His armorded hide is tough, but how tough is it? We really don't know, all original godzilla's were able to withstand missle attacks, while the new might have been confused or maybe even antagonized by what was happening. Though one thing is for sure all godzilla's feed off of atomic radiation that is the one factor that can be said on all godzilla's . :)

Something else i missed.

@high flyers tag team,

Never tell anyone to shut up, that was disrespectful.

Bigbadben- You are exactly right, But in terms of Godzilla armor let me say a few things. Godzilla 2014 if you believe the awakening comic as canon, Survived being a few feet away from the permian impact. And apparently he was unscathed. Also even in Godzila vs mechagodzilla and titanosaurus he wasnt being brutaly stabbed in his gills by 2 ferocious creatures.

For the most part it was him barely surviving takeing on 1 on 1. But if we dont believe the awakening, Then Godzilla did take castle bravo point blank on his face. And also i read a article where it said that Godzilla wasnt healing from the wounds for 60 years but was infact sleeping because the Shinomura was killed by the Castle Bravo.

He had no reason to go back up. But in every other part you are exactly correct all Godzillas are equal. But the meaning of this post was to say, If Godziilla 2014 was on a BloodLust, full strength i think he could take on Showa and Heisei, And 2000.

Highflyertagteam- Zilla doesnt count as a version of The King, since he is not The King. So that makes Godzilla 2014 the fastest. I think in overall strategic combat he could beat all the ones you said, But im not sure about final wars since he was a martial artist. Also were talking about with no Atomic Breath.

@gorillagodzilla,

In all fairness, we all should be happy that us fans got what we wanted this time around and that the frachise is still alive today, thanks to legendary and warner bros. :)

You might be right but as of now it is tough to say, hopefully in the sequal we will see godzilla in full strength and can see his brute power at full to determine how really tough he is. :)

GORILLAGODZILLA77897-how tall is FW. Anyways not to be off topic but to me Zilla is sony's incarnation. Us fans know he's not a true godzilla but still. 

Can a mod make this a main forum lol

Please. This is a perfect topic.