Gareth Edwards: How soon Production for Godzilla Sequel begins Depends on China

The sad part is, it would have been so easy to make G14 great...

1. Make the airport fight that we DON'T see, one that we DO see.

2. OR....Make the final fight scene longer with a greater visual impact to the city.

3. OR...A fairly lengthy(Godzilla 2000-like) military engagement with Godzilla.

4.OR...Any combination of all of the above.

Don't have the budget...?

1. Ditch Cranston. Good actor, but he overacted this one, and died early. I personally wouldn't have missed him. You could have had Dr. Serizawa as the power plant employee who loses his wife and goes on a quest for the truth, ending him up in pretty much the same place with all his "Let them fight," business.

2. Ditch the female lead. I care for her so little that I'm not gonna bother looking up her name, real or fictional. What was her purpose? To NOT answer the phone? Kick-Ass could have been a soldier and single father, torn from his son to fight the monsters and who path intersects with Serizawas.

3. Although I'm sure she came cheap, ditch the other woman who hangs around Dr. Serizawa. Who was she? Did she serve any purpose at all other to inject a tiny amount of reference?

4. I'm gonna get some complaints here, but ditch one MUTO! Did we really need two? Aside from their heartbreaking nuzzle, I don't see the value there. More money to animate more Godzilla if you are animating one MUTO, and then I don't have to watch the slaughter of a loving MUTO family and feel all crappy about it.

So I have no idea how much that's gonna save you in the budget. Probably not too much. But hey, if money is the problem, then every little bit can buy you a little more digital Godzilla I would assume.

If money was not the problem, then Gareth is indeed a tool.

DestroyahX- Do you have rage issues? First im not a loyalist i just really enjoyed the movie.  And your not considering that everything i say good about the film, You find something bad about it. So technically we are an equal and opposite reaction to are point of views.

Godzilla 2014 was a good movie, I want you guys to give it a chance alright. And stop critisising it. It was a good film and thats final.

What made it a good film. I don't completely disagree but I'm just curious what about it made it stand out above average? Is a 10 minute fight in a two hour movie enough to blow back every other fault? Did Bryan Cranston's performance wash away how lifeless ATJ was after he died, or how useless Elizabeth Olsen was to the story? Was the story that great? Seemed pretty simple to me. So what about them movie particuarly did you find that makes it so Gareth needs to come back and do the sequel in a way no other director could?

@GorillaGodzilla77897 - With all due respect, you do notice nobody is disputing your choice of adoration for Godzilla 2014 and its director, likewise you have no right to tell others what to do or what to think. 

We might as well call this Godzilla-Movies forum a 'GorillaGodzilla77897-wants-to-see-only-things-he-likes' moderated Godzilla forums. Thank God you don't happen to run this forum, otherwise you would censor out all the negative views and the only topics allowed are: "Godzilla 2014 is awesome! " Of course by then, this forum would have turned into an empty town.

The difference between us lies with the fact that unlike you, other than just appreciating the movie, I didn't apply a different standard when judging this movie, and I had the guts to admit that this movie had its shortfalls, and it really isn't doing exceptionally well at the box-office as we had hoped for, while you chose to put on a huge blinder and even if Godzilla 2014 makes $1 at the box-office, you would never question why and still scream at the top of your lungs, "awesome! ".   

Which brings me to add, if you choose to put on a blinder, that's your choice, that's your problem. I have no issue with that. But if you have nothing constructive to add apart from just telling people you feel its a great film and others should stop criticizing the movie on this thread, it would be much appreciated if you stop commenting altogether or to ignore this thread completely for your own good, because repeating 10,000 times of the same thing that you think the movie is awesome is not going to help either. Thank you.

@ThePike - Yes, and you were talking about the budget. I don't think the issue is about the budget. Contrast this with Transformers DOTM which costs slightly more at $195 million to make, Steven Spielberg's CGI wizardry is no slouch here or even better in fact, not to mention more action, more battle sequences. Which gets more bang for the buck? You decide. 

Destroyah- We have a right to express are own views. I enjoyed the movie, You thought it needed work. Im not moderating this thread, Im just telling you the reasons why its a good movie and why your arguements dont make any sense at times. A few posts ago you critisized me and called me a loyalist. Have i called you anything? Maybe a hater or something but thats purely for fun. What i am trying to say is, The movie is about to make 200 million in the U.S. You guys should be cheering it on for that not describing why Gareth sucks and movie has a 10 minute fight. This film was purely ment to immulate the 54 original. In the original Godzilla only appears for 10 minutes, In this one he appears for 15, Get my point? They both dont have that much Godzilla but the scenes they are in are unforgettable, Godzilla 54s Electrical fence scene is iconic, So is Godzilla 2014s first arrival scene. Destroyah, i get your point, You make a very good arguement and i like your views on somethings. But we as Godzilla fans shouldnt be ragging on the film in the way you guys are, Its incredibly better the 98, "Which was a monumental flop im serious, Maybe not in the box office but for just bad Godzilla" Godzilla 2014 is A Good movie. And you guys should be more willing to let Gareth have one more chance with the sequel, A new director you never know what will happen. He might change Godzilla story completly. And we dont want Godzilla to be another pacific rim with no story and just pure fighting again. In order for the Godzilla series to still be revelant and not just some kiddy stuff, It needs to be serious and real and thats what i like about Gareth. So you guys should stop hating on the movie, And maybe for once say something good about it? Cause dont we want to see the sequel, "2016" right? Ok, Destroyah i have a deal with you. If the sequel is worse i will resign my opinion and will say it needs a new director. Alright? #GiveGarethaChancexD

Also How many times have you guys fallen asleep in the old movies because of the constant fighting. Admit it!

GORILLAGODZILLA77897 - These are your words: "Godzilla 2014 was a good movie. I want you guys to give it a chance alright. And stop critisising it. It was a good film and that's final."

   Take a moment to consider the self-defeating nature of the statement you've made. You want us to give Godzilla (2014) a chance. We have; each of us here has likely seen the film. Asking us to give something a chance implies the possibility that we can make a decision about it after having afforded it a chance. Is it wrong of us to form an opinion concerning the very thing to which you've asked us to give a chance? From what I can tell, you don;t want us to give the film a chance; you want us to like it unconditionally - reagrdless of any concerns or issues we have with it. The word chance implies the possibility for failure or success. For some of us, the chance we gave resulted in a favorable outcome. For other, less so.

   Stating that Godzilla (2014) was a good film ("and that's final") is extremely unfair. Asking others to give something a chance and then stating the above-cited absolute makes it impossible for them to form their own opinion. How can we give something a chance when you take that chance from us? I very much enjoyed Godzilla (2014). However, I'm in no way blind to the problems present in the film. Additionally, I'm not about to tell others that their viewpoints concerning the film are wrong. That's the beauty of being a self-aware, autonomous being: we can make choices - such as the one to give something a chance. Not only that, but we're capable of devising opinions and judgements based on that which we have given a chance.

   Please, I implore you, consider what I've said. We're all fans here - we each love Godzilla and want to see more films concerning him. Give us a chance, and we'll repay that kindness. Who knows? You might walk away enlightened to some degree. Many of the men and women whom have posted on this thread are exceptionally intelligent and insightful. Listening to what they've to say instead of outright disregarding their words might be worthwhile. :)

I'm curious Gorillagodzilla77897 what past Godzilla films had constant fighting? You make it seem like every Godzilla movie is balls to the wall action and we didn't like this because there wasn't any. I'd simply like to point out MOST Godzilla movies have humans make up a large portion of the story and Godzilla having scenes towards the end with maybe a small fight in the middle to set up each monster's powers and strengths to help build up how strong they are for the final fight. The problem with this movie and why it's performing isn't because there's lack of action, there are quite a few scenes with the MUTOs that have explosions it's the constant cut away that I found most people disliking. As I pointed out there are at least 3 big cut aways during the movie that if they didn't exist and actually showed what happened I think the movie would have been much stronger and viewed much differently. I remember being in the theater opening night and hearing people laugh at the first one thinking it was a funny little prank to build up the final fight, but later on as the cut aways continued groans and sighs became more evident. 

@Something Real - Now, that's a good one! :) It's what I have been trying to tell @GorillaGodzilla77897 from the very beginning, except that you have put it across in such a manner that's more polite and eloquent. :)

Ironically, while he claims he respects the views of others, at the same time, he insists that we must accept that Godzilla 2014 is a good film and we should stop whatever negative thoughts we have with the film, just so we can see eye to eye with him. I don't see how that is considered respect for another's opinion, and to add on, you do noticed we folks here have got @GorillaGodzilla's point long ago and we gladly respect that. So whatever we have been discussing so far in this thread are views between us folks, and nobody's directing the conversation to him if you noticed. So I do not understand his rationale for repeatedly butting in to impose his views on us when nobody is exactly directing the conversation to him or telling him to accept our opinions. :P

@GorillaGodzilla77897 - Dear friend, I don't want to sound like a nag but I'll have to say this to you again. Nobody's disputing your thoughts about the movie. And besides, do you realize that I was actually having a discussion with @Talisman, @ThePike, & @Durp004 on the movie and not directing any part of these conversations to you personally? If I do not like something that I see, I simply ignore it because it doesn't affect me in any way, but I wouldn't see fit to budge into someone else' discussion and keep repeating the same stuff telling them to stop it or to alter their views according to mine?

Which leads me to feel that I think you have an ego issue here. The folks here have already got your viewpoints from the start. What I don't get is, you seem to see our discussions as an attack on your personal ego that compels you to respond, when we aren't directing anything upon you? So please, you are welcome to discuss, but if you are just gonna repeat 10,000 times that you think the movie is good, and gareth deserves a chance, I'd rather you keep it to yourself because we already understood your message a long time ago. :P

DESTROYAH-X - I'm pleased you enjoyed the way in which I addressed GORILLAAGODZILLA77897. However, I feel slightly ashamed for it; I absolutely abhore having to engage with someone in such a manner. I simply wish that he would join in the conversations on this thread in a productive manner. Constantly stating that Godzilla 2014 was a good film that others should like without question is in no way fair. I liked the movie, but it's far from perfect. Quite the contrary - there are many instances within the film that could use a little work. That being said, I'm not about to tell others what they should or shouldn't think about the movie. Diversity is one of life's pleasures! :)

@everyone,

this thread is about one more comment that envolves someone doing name calling again to being locked down. This is the last warning you all will receive from me.

@destroyah-x,

I don't think you will have to worry about that salembradily person anymore i seen the comment "take a bullet to your face." That was very, very uncalled for. I am sorry that happened and if you are still hurt from that comment do not hesitate to send me a PM. :)

Further note i would like to point out one more thing here destroyah-x, had godzilla been the dark and scary movie like they teased it to be one of these two things would have happened.

A.) it either would have been a flop at the box office

B.) it wouldn't have gotten the success it did as is because the studios knew that children of all ages would want to see godzilla and i can respect that.

@destroyah-x,

one more thing, if you would liike to you can check out this thread and see what i am working on.

http://www.godzilla-movies.com/community/forums/topic/35727

If that link doesn't work just look up a thread in the art work section titled " 2nd teaser drawings of my godzilla 1954 graphic novel still in the works." ;)

And try to be here this friday as the 3rd teasers will be posted then. :)

BIGBADBEN - There is absolutley nothing rude about anything you've stated. You're doing your job as a Moderator and keeping things under control. I'm...shocked that somebody made such an ugly comment to DESTROYAH-X! I hadn't seen that anywhere in this thread! If I had, I would certainly have lodged a complaint. Regardless, thank you very much for maintaining the balance here. Everyone in the sandbox occasionally requires a reminder not to throw the sand. :)

Something real- Your right it was kind of dumb for me to put in, " Thats final" Sorry.

DestroyahX- I know i have expressed my views alot of times, But havent you to? Though your posts are pretty productive to the conversation, Truly when i say something good about g 14, Admit that you do say something negative about it. I know i have no say in this post since its DestroyahX's but maybe we could be a little less harsh on the movie? I mean its the last Godzilla movie since 2004, So maybe you could find something good to say about the movie, Instead of, "Its not doing well at the box office" Thats just my view point you dont have to listen to it. I enjoyed the movie, you guys thought there were some problems, Life!

Something real- Sorry if i havent been bringing anything productive to this conversation, Thank you for bringing it up, Im gonna try and be more productive now!

GORILLAGODZILLA77897 - It's perfectly alright. :) I'm extremely pleased that you want to join in and provide interesting feedback on this thread. We're all a great lot of Godzilla nerds here! Let's act like it instead of going at each-others' throats over petty issues! :)

    If I may ask, what would you say your #1 favorite part of Godzilla was? After that, what was your #1 least favorite part of the film? :)

For al of you guys here is something to think about. This new Godzilla has a longer screen time than Darth Vader in Star Wars A New Hope. Vader-12 minutes. Godzilla- about 13 minutes. Also at least Gareth made the movie so Godzilla can have more movies. Be thankfull that at least there will be some Godzilla movies in the future instead of none at all.

Mecha Rodan- I don't know about the whole Darth Vader thing....But there is a WHOLE LOT going on in 'Star Wars.' And keep in mind, that movie is not called 'Darth Vader.' It's called 'Star Wars,' and that's what you get. Now, I have timed most of the final Godzilla fight in G14. It's 7-8 minutes of actual Godzilla time, minus Godzilla killing the second MUTO, and whatever occurs after, which isn't much. So we are really talking around 10 minutes of a 2 hour movie. And there is almost nothing before that. Even IF it were 13 minutes, it sure isn't 13 quality minutes. If anything, the teases are infuriating, and the fight is too franetic to get a good handle on.

Somehow, I never felt teased by Darth Vader. Now, if they would have cut away from him every time he was about to do something, then okay. But in the very first scene of the movie he chokes a guy to death! Perhaps you could argue that they cut away right before the duel with Obewon, but at least they go back to it, and it's a great duel! I appreciate your attempt at an analogy, but no way are they the same.

Something real- My 1# part is the end where he blows the atomic breath into the female muto's mouth! That scene was incredible!

My least favirote scene is when Bryan Cranston's character dies. I thought that was unnessesary! What are your favirote scenes?