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What Gareth Edwards should have done for Godzilla & the MUTOs

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MemberMothra LarvaeMay-20-2014 9:36 AM

To begin, I think Gareth Edwards deserves much credit for the outlook of the new Godzilla and the MUTOs. However at the same time, both fans and non-fans had issues with Godzilla in a number of areas, despite it being a huge hit for now. 

To be honest, even after I have watched the movie and it's been days since, scenes of the movie kept replaying in my mind, and it just didn't feel complete. Something seems to be missing, I don't know if any of you guys are also feeling the same way about Godzilla 2014. There were issues in Godzilla 2014 that kept me thinking about how the movie would have played out if these issues were improved upon. Has Gareth Edwards succeeded in making us look forward to a Godzilla sequel because he deliberately made the show feel incomplete? Or was it just plain oversight on his part on some issues that made it feel lacking in substance? It was good overall, but somehow upon leaving the theatre, something I felt is missing is the lack of a strong tone/depth to end Godzilla 2014 with.

My focus is actually on Godzilla and the MUTOs, as there were really some key areas that Gareth Edwards could have explored to leave an even bigger impression on the audiences. I'll start with Godzilla first.

Godzilla:

I say Gareth Edwards and his team nailed it on this one. The look and immensity of Godzilla really goes down well. I could see that Godzilla was designed in such a way that his scales were crocodilian-like, which made it believable that it could have existed. (who knows) Godzilla could even be considered a really ancient ancestor of the crocodile species? You add that sense of realism along with his majestic roar and it is really epic, and I think that's the best Godzilla roar I've ever heard.

The issues:

1)  I think disappointment with Godzilla stems from the fact that throughout the course of marketing the movie especially during the initial stages, Godzilla was portrayed as a "Destroyer of Worlds". Many early scenes suggested an apocalyse for mankind, or facing Godzilla's wrath, which led people to incline their expectations of Godzilla in this direction, similar to the dark tonality of the 1954 verson. After watching the movie, its clear that Godzilla is nowhere near such a portrayal, and he turns out to be sort of a hero/anti-hero. 

2)  Godzilla's portrayal as a Force of Nature is fine, provided they actually stick to his animalistic instincts, but in the movie, Godzilla is being almost too 'courteous' with the humans, that apart from just tearing apart the Golden Gate Bridge, you do not actually see Godzilla kill any humans on sight. It doesn't help at all that Godzilla made no response to the attacks of the military which felt very unrealistic. To put it in this perspective, even for a human, if you are bitten by a swarm of ants coming at your feet, (sure, ants can't kill you but) the natural instinct would be to swat them off to or kill them. For Godzilla not to do that to the humans in the face of projectiles coming at him? - its really surprising that he did nothing. It's as if Godzilla has this consciousness in him that humans do not deserved to be killed, which to me, is one step in the wrong direction if Godzilla is supposed to be a Force to be reckoned with. Going forward, humans will no longer fear Godzilla because he appears to be on the side of the them. So again, we get another misportrayal - He isn't a destroyer of worlds, nor is he an anti-hero. He's now a kind heroic monster like Gamera? I mean even natural forces of Nature like real tsunamis, earthquakes and typhoons do not discern between humans and what to wreck. This portrayal of Godzilla now would completely detract from the theme of showcasing the horrors of nuclear power.

For these two points mentioned above, I can understand why some people are clearly displeased with the movie, and felt misled. I personally think Godzilla is a bit too kind in this movie, which does not benefit his reputation. 

 

The MUTOS

I think the MUTOs are a masterpiece in a league of their own, and certainly very well-designed. In fact they just made it to the top of my favorite list of Godzilla adversaries, alongside Biollante, Mothra & Battra. When the MUTOs first demonstrated their ability to project EMPs, I thought it was a really cool idea, which is devastating to humans and their technology, and you do realize with such an ability, the MUTOs could literally eat the nuclear-powered Jaegers in Pacific Rim for lunch, and render even the more powerful Mark-4 & 5 Jaegers to nothing but statues. While I have no complains about the MUTOs, there were some areas that Gareth E. could have capitalized on the MUTOs to better demonstrate their prowess. 

The issues:

1) During the scene when the flying MUTO emerged from the Janjira site, an earthquake was reported. My thought was, if the MUTO could project an EMP so wide that it covers an area of 5 miles, surely it must have the ability to create a small earthquake of sorts with its claws. I thought it would have been very appropriate if Gareth E. associated the MUTOs with the ability to shatter the ground and create earthquakes, which would have made them so much more powerful. If the Male MUTO had no such ability, surely the Female MUTO, given its size should have the means to do so. However the ability to create an earthquake was surprisingly not accorded to the MUTOs. I would like to think of the MUTOs as gigantic versions of present-day Mantis Shrimps, where the claws may appear ordinary, but they pack a tremendous punch when used for attacking. 

2) The reason why I felt it necessary to project the MUTOs' power was because clearly there were people saying that they felt Godzilla was ridiculously weak against the MUTOs, which didn't make sense since Godzilla could take on kiloton nuclear bombs right in the face in 1954, while here, Godzilla was collapsing to the pummelling of the MUTOs, which only have EMP capabilities. I thought if Gareth E. had demonstrated the MUTOs' ability to shatter the ground and create earthquakes with their claws to disrupt Godzilla's movements, it would have made the fighting scenes more epic, and at the same time, the pain felt by Godzilla would have been more apparent to the audience. 

 

My Conclusion:

If Godzilla isn't the Destroyer of Worlds, but a Force of Nature, then make it convincing enough to show he is one, because right now he is neither, nor is he an anti-hero. He just seems like a good old monster now. If the MUTOs had demonstrated more devastating attacks, the fight scenes would have been really epic, and Godzilla would also appear more powerful against his foes. In this way, its a two-way benefit for both Godzilla and the MUTOs' image.

Thank you if you have taken the time to read up to this point, it would be nice to hear from you people how you think Godzilla or the MUTOs could have been portrayed to make it a better movie. :)

 

 

 

" Your kind feared the Darkness. "

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Something Real
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THE WEAVER - With regards to the "Jurassic Park" quote you've made, was not Malcom speaking on the dangers of resurrecting an extinct species through the powers of genetic engineering? The MUTOs survived without aid from an artificial source, ergo nature might not have selected them for extinction - or many other creatures, for that matter. Food for thought. :)
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Well as far as I know, in the Permian, when they lived, the mutos adapted to hunt in packs and take down individuals of godzillas species. They then killed the godzillas and laid their eggs in their radioactive dead bodies as to obviously, leech the radiation. Th mutos are a sinister and destructive species and in learning what they did to the species to which godzilla belonged it is natrual to presume that the two kinds became enimies, battling viciously for survival and dominance. I believe that the competition became so horrifying that it was instinct for godzillas species to irradicate the mutos as they presented a disturbing threat to their existence. This is my two cents and this is why I believe giojira emerged to tackle these monstrosities! They present a threat to godzilla and I think that this almost fear of the mutos drove godzilla to the state in which his main goal was just to rid his environment of these adversaries and to almost ignore us! Just my thoughts!

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Well, the MUTOs wouldn't have been revived if mankind didn't try to dig in places they shouldn't. Or creating unwanted consequences. But even if they just happened to be awakened on accident (like a landslide and such) without us the MUTOs would still have died off as nature intended. But they don't, because of our meddling with radiation, which is their source of life.

In a sense, the MUTOs returned because of us, like Malcolm's distaste of genetic engineering. All of it is still our fault, albeit unintentionally. (Like genetic engineering)

So nature had to find a way. ;)

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EVAN123 - You may be right. It's a perfectly natural response for an organism of any species to attempt to flee from or remove threats to its existence. Seeing as how it would likely be difficult for Godzilla to flee a whole brood of MUTOs once the eggs hatched, he probably decided to go after them before they could be born - and present an even greater threat! :)
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Yes, exactly, I got that information from the art book by the way! I would kill to see the ecosystem from which godzilla and the mutos hail, it must of been absolutely awe-inspiring, these giants battling it out as maybe smaller animals ran between them searching for prey! I hope they reference this time period in the next film!

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THE WEAVER - Hahaha! That's a good point! Well, let's look at the MUTOs as they were found by Serizawa and his team. They were still alive as they were feeding upon the remnant radiation within the massive skeleton to which they were attached. Could they have hatched without our meddling? I'm uncertain. Could they have survived upon hatching (without our meddling) without the sheer amount of nuclear material we've brought into the world? Highly unlikely - unless they struck out immediately to find Godzilla. Even then, Godzilla could only feed them and their progeny for so long. Perhaps they would be forced to retreat back to the depths of the Earth or deepest ocean trenches in order to feed off of the radiation issuing from the planets core as Godzilla was shown to do. Regardless, this is proving to be a very fun and compelling conversation! I applaud your reasoning skills! Thank you! :)
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EVAN123 - Now THAT would be something very interesting to see! :)
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It's actually great isn't it? You have to admit, Gareth has created a wonderful world and many aspects about which we can debate endlessly! This will only increase as the sequel looms!

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Perhaps the MUTOs could still live on with as few radiation as there is, but not in the amount they would with nearly 20,000 nuclear weapons hidden in stockpiles around the world... Yeah, the MUTOs would upset nature very hard. (Thank Godzilla for his intervention) And thank you! :)

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I had no idea we had so many nuclear weapons! I wonder how many muto creatures lie under the surface? It couldn't of just been this two!

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I just relized that the Male MUTO is the only one who uses EMP. I dont remember seeing the female ever use it. Maybe that will explain why Godzilla had such trouble when they both were together. The male would be fast, agile, and have a stunning EMP, seems like that would be a task for a 355 ft tall lumbering hulk. 

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I'm pretty sure the female used it! Do you remember the power cutting in the casino as she rampages through Vegas!

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THE WEAVER - You're most welcome. I very much enjoy having good, intelligent debates that are both focused and friendly. It's one of my absolute feavorite things! Indeed, the sheer amount of nuclear armaments Mankind has created would have been, hmm, very unpleasant were they to be cracked open by the MUTOs. However, I wonder if, in some way, the MUTOs might have been beneficial. They consume readiation - draining it of its fundamental properties. If they were allowed to walk about the atomic candy store we've created, it stands to reason that they'd eventually deplete the stockpiles of nuclear weapons we've produced. In the end, they'd starve or be forced to retreate to farther depths, perhaps leaving the surface free of radioctive waste and arms. :)
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Actually the female also has EMP, and hers is much more powerful, there was a graph animation showing a bubble covering a huge area around the Female Muto on her journey to San Francisco. This bubble was the reason the nuclear warhead couldn't be transported by air or planes, but only by train.

It's a "plot hole" many people like to poke at, as to why they couldn't just flown the nuclear cargo instead. And they couldn't just risk leaving the weapon as it would lure the female to take it.

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EVAN123 - You're absolutely right. The female did, indeed, evidence the ability to utilize EMP bursts. :)
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SOMETHING REAL: I'm thinking there's always one common ingredient to all these fights that break out on these forums...you!  LOL  You sure these aren't all somehow your fault? ;-)

I think it's interesting to refer to pre-historic events among animals as "horrifying."  I get a kick out of that.

I think the comment about the EMPs from the MUTOs by touch is a warranted one and would have made sense.  They probably wouldn't outright fry Godzilla so much as really mess up his nervous system.

The MUTO were pretty poweful too. Don't forget the small one picked up a nuclear sub and carried a few hundred miles (they said was missing in the North Altantic) ..well most nuke subs are at least 300 feet long, so it was bigger than he was...impressive.

Yet, later, we see him get impaled by building material...yep, not too consistent, and yes, I thought of that as soon as it happened.

Yep, that bomb in the intro sure seemed to land right on the big guy...and later he was clearly at least annoyed by the actions on the bridge...I thought it'd have been better if he just plowed through there completely indifferently like we weren't even there...

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That could have just been from her rambaging though and not her use of any EMP. She did tear a large hole down the Vegas Strip.

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CARL MAJORS - Nonsense! I simply step in to have a good share of the mayhem that ensues! ;)
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I'm pretty sure she possessed and utilised an EMP assault! Look at what THE WEAVER said.

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Yes Yes I believe your all right about the females EMP. It was a small scene with lots of plot blocking elements. Oh and I just remembered that she shut down the boat just before Godzilla gave her an atomic kiss.

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