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MUTO...Insect or Reptile?

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gtbetta35

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The other day, someone brought to light that the way the MUTO flapped its wings, it couldn't possibly be an insect. Insects flap their wings at a rather incredible speed. The MUTO looks to have more of a bird or bat's wing physiology. 

As someone who studies animal behavior and biology (by hobby, hopefully profession one day), I couldn't believe what I had thought up. I initially said "No, hah- there's no.....no way..." and then when you line the MUTO and my animal up together, their head shapes are oddly similar. The Alligator Snapping Turtle

Now, am I saying the MUTO is Gamera in disguise?!? No. But it looks like the design and physiology of these creatures came from both insects and reptiles with emphasis on the reptilian look.

We always thought the MUTOs looked very alien.....But it seems as if their design is from fairly real animals!

It obviously makes sense, seeming that reptiles/forms of birds, dinosaurs and insects were really all could survive in the very prehistoric world. 

 

Let me know what you think the MUTO is a combination of!

 

 

ALSO

This is from the IMDB trivia page of Godzilla which could give us a good idea of how long he's in the film!!!!

There are 960 visual effects shots through the whole film, 327 of which are of Godzilla whose 3D model is made up of 500,000 polygons. Had the computer graphics been designed only on a single computer, it would have taken 450 years to render

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Duratok
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This topic was brought up earlier this week.

 

That being said, I don't think it's reptilian or insect, but something that's been lost to time.

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Lewshizz
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I always have been good at topics :D

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gtbetta35
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Much like a dinosaur that was neither reptilian or bird. Just something lost to time. Interesting. It's all incredibly interesting.

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Unbelievable Varan
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I think the most alien thing with the Muto's are those eyes......they look pretty different to me......almost mechanical. The other body parts and anatomy look like a hodgepodge from a scavenger hunt. Looks pretty decent though from the brief looks we may have seen from the trailers.

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I don't think it is an insect or a reptile. But if the MUTOS are mutated from an insect or a reptile, well that's a diferent story, but I don't think they are mutated from real life animals because it is Massive"Undenified" Terrestrial Organism.

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GTBETTA35 - I happen to believe the MUTOs are a completely unique series of life-forms that, while comparable to others, are in an order all of their own. :)
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I think the MUTO's are both reptilian and insect.

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I used to think they were types of arthropods, but then I found out the they had complete skeletons. I'm guessing they're reptiles, or at least some sort of synapsid

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QuinnTKO
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It's more of a giant parasite, or germ, so neither.

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Djdndnejwnwn
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Its actually been confirmed theyre mammals

expecting the worst, sets you up for thr worst

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"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."
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QuinnTKO
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Wait WHAT how are they mammals?!?

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QuinnTKO

Apparently the idea of them being mammals comes from statements from Gareth Edwards and other people involved with the film, however their statements mentioned that certain attributes of the MUTOs (like their movements) were based on mammals, not that they were mammals. So as of now the MUTOs technically don't have an official classification.

My best guess is that the MUTOs are sort of there own thing, they don't fall in to any known classification and are instead an unknown type of ancient creature that falls in between vertebrates and invertebrates, which is why they share traits from both (such as having an internal skeleton, a possible exoskeleton, and insectoid traits). 

"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."
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QuinnTKO
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Yeah I still think they are just really big parasites, the movie even said they are so I have no idea how they could be mammals.

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Guillaume Rocheron was quoted in Godzilla: The Art of Destruction as saying that he "would classify [the MUTOs] as mammals because they have flesh and bone and muscles."

Its in the art book

expecting the worst, sets you up for thr worst

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HinikunaGoji

Flesh and bone and muscles wouldn't immediately classify them as mammals, as birds, reptiles, amphibians, and most fish have those traits as well. That description would mean that they're a Chordate of some sort (one that strangely exhibits insectoid traits).

The main traits of mammals are that they're warm-blooded, most are born alive (with the exception of monotremes), and the young are fed milk produced by the mother's mammary glands, which aren't traits exhibited by the MUTOs.

"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."
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They also wouldn't be Tetrapods (which mammals are), as Tetrapods have (or their ancestors had) four limbs. The MUTOs have eight limbs (with two of the male's limbs forming wings).

"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."
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SasquaDash

Thats not my piont, its that the designer says theyre mammals, then they are mammals

expecting the worst, sets you up for thr worst

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So, narrowing it down, if they're Chordates, they would possibly be an unknown type of animal that branched off around here:

Their insectoid traits could be a result of convergent evolution and possible mutations.

"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."
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SasquaDash

Its not about actual evolutionary facts because pretty much all of that is out the window. His design philosophy was to take a mammal and make it look as far from one as possible.

Hes alreafy said what he designed, his comments are very open ended sounding, but ill side with the artist

expecting the worst, sets you up for thr worst

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