
Akio123
MemberMothra LarvaeDec-01-2013 5:23 PMHello everyone! Besides three headed alien dragons along with other monsters, and a fictional weapon(Oxygen Destroyer), what can kill Godzilla? Yeah yeah I know, he's a fictional character, but this makes for good discussion. Plus, I really don't know. Im sure you all can tell me. Now in regards to the new movie, Godzilla will represent(Said by Gareth Edwards) the Force of Nature and or the Hand of God.
Realistically, nature can never be completely stopped. So is Godzilla arguably unstoppable? I've heard that a nuke can kill him. If so, that is rather..strange. Then again, what created you can destroy you I guess. So if a nuke can kill him, why hasn't it been used? lol I want to believe in my mind that Godzilla is superior to the monsters in Pacific Rim, as well as those in his own universe. The Pacifc Rim kaiju(Although created by aliens) were just giant beasts with tough skin. Godzilla is an atomic creature, fully composed of extreme radiation. If he were to be killed in the new movie, or the older ones with the acception of the first movie and "Godzilla vs Destoroyah", what is something we actually have that is capable of killing him? Would it be a nuke? Educate me! lol
Since EVERY Godzilla in has shown they will use their ray without moderation it's fair to say any wound to the shoulder would end of killing them eventually.
A heart beating doesnt really mean much. That Godzilla wasn't the same as the others, different backstory and everything so to assume he had regenerator G1 is a stretch, but even so it would take months, maybe years to regenerate a whole body around the heart, since the brain which I would guess was telling the body to heal was gone, so while the heart may still function doesn't mean Godzilla could come back.
...or some people just take the heart thing too literally and have no concept of thematic symbolism. But hey, I guess everyone feels like they need an explaination for everything.
And just to be clear Godzilla's powers are not the same across the board. Regenerator G-1 was what his G-Cells were called in Godzilla 2000 and that concept is heavily borrowed from the G-Cells in the Heisei series.
Godzilla was never known to have super regenerative abilities in the Showa series, he was simply tough. (Which I like better anyway.) It might be safe to assume that the Godzilla in the Kiryu movies also does not have the same super regenerative abilities. He returned in the second movie with an ugly scar on his chest. Even the GMK Godzilla didn't heal from the wound on his shoulder caused by King Ghidorah-- which was the only reason General Tachibana was able to drill out of his body.
Super regenerative powers are more of an exception than a rule with Godzilla. I wouldn't apply it to every incarnation.
@GMAN2887 "...or some people just take the heart thing too literally and have no concept of thematic symbolism. But hey, I guess everyone feels like they need an explaination for everything."
Okay, so if showing his still beating heart didn't mean he's going to come back, what does it mean? And if he can't regenerate, how did he come back from being supposedly dissolved by the Oxygen Destroyer if he didn't grow back from a few surviving cells? I'm pretty sure GMK Godzilla just has very slow regeneration, so that he can be defeated for a while, but he will always come back.
I also recall Showa Godzilla recovering from some pretty nasty wounds, including having his hand skeletonized, in just a few minutes.
@Linkzilla
The beating heart means Godzilla will never die-- Period. It doesn't mean he'll regenerate. It doesn't insinuate anything about G-Cells, regenerative powers, growing an entire body back from nothing...etc... It's simply a visual metaphore that as long as conflict in humanity remains, so will he. It was an artistic decision, nothing more.
Besides we don't know how Godzilla returned in GMK and we're not supposed to. No character in the movie tries to understand or explain it and there's nothing to assume he grew back from simple cells in it. He simply exists and we don't know how. That's the point. The mystery of Godzilla is part of the horror and the enigma behind the creature.
Even in the original movie they only had theroies instead of absolute answers. This was done on purpose, in both movies, to leave the mystical nature of Godzilla ambiguous. Giving him an absolute explaination takes that mystery away from Godzilla-- as a character.
And yes the Showa Godzilla did recover from nasty wounds, like any animal would. That doesn't mean he has regenerative powers. Godzilla's skelo-hand in vs. Hedorah didn't heal immediately and neither did his eye. Remember, the Showa movies are only loosely connected. They never bothered to try and connect them too closely so the filmmakers probably never thought about how his wounds healed from movie-to-movie. The idea of regenerative powers wasn't brought up until screenwriter Kazuki Omori entered the Heisei seres.
The only thing I can think of offhand is asphyxiation...
I previously expressed doubts about the oxygen destroyer appearing in this new film; however...
If it's portrayed as something that suffocates (literally removing oxygen), I can see that being deadly to the Big G...
This is assuming the creature actually breathes oxygen!
I think for the sake of dramatic tension (let's assume the new film is following a similar plot to the original 1954 movie), whatever devise Dr. Serizawa develops to that can stop Godzilla and the mutos should be dangerous to everything on Earth. I don't expect the Oxygen Destroyer to re-appear, but perhaps some kind of virus or nanomite is created that has a chance of getting out of control when used. Will help keep the tone of hopelessness in this new film or series of films. It'd be a cool set-up for a sequel if the weapon did get out of control.
Godzilla is a living creature, and as such he can be killed by many things. Some of them are what you'd expect, others are not.
He could be killed by any monster capable of inflicting grievous wounds and preventing him from finding a safe place to recover. If he bleeds out, he's done.
He could be killed by an object striking him in a vulnerable place such as the base of the skull or the throat right beneath his jaw. He might be a kaiju, but he's got skeletal weaknesses and muscular vulnerabilities all the same.
He could be killed by anything that starves his lungs of oxygen, as we all know he requires oxygen to breath when out of water. Beneath the water, whatever kind of breathing aparatus he has (likely internal gills) needs to be cut off to drown him.
He could be killed by a large enough meteor striking him directly due to the pure speed and mass of the object. He's tough, but not touch enough to wether such an impact. And for those who think the Monster X meteor hit Godzilla, it didn't. It blew up before hitting the ground, and Godzilla whethered the explosion, not a direct impact.
He could be killed by nutrient starvation, keeping him away from any and all sources of sustinence such as radiation or any other kind of food intake he is capable of using.
He could be killed by (as stated by someone else above) the sun enlarging and absorbing the Earth and thus destroying it.
There are more, but this is where I'll stop the list for now.
Superman and Gorky have nothing on Godzilla...the only known thing to work is a meltdown within himself and the oxygen destroyer
Nothing can destroy Godzilla, Regenerater G1 makes undestructible! that's why he is the King Folks, Bow Down to his greatness!
Except, as I mentioned before, Regenerator G1 and G-Cells are only a confirmed power of the G2K and Heisei Godzilla's respectively.
Some fans really need a reality check with the whole, "he can't physically die," thing.
What Kyero posted is true: any physical, living creature can be killed. There will be no Regenerator G1 from the previous movies (this is a reboot, for the umpteenth time)...
That doesn't preclude the possibility of cell regeneration being involved...
And, as I stated previously, assuming Godzilla needs oxygen, he can be asphyxiated.
Look Godzillas regeneration is key to the monster...he would be dead so many times if it wasn't for it and we can safely assume he always had it ...it's just that it wasn't explained until later
My best thought would be to inject some kind of super poison into his bloodstream. Godzilla does not have any chemically-supernatural powers to make himself immune to viruses or poison. Any other thoughts relating to this?
(original timeline)
godzilla : sticks and stones may break my bones , but nothing will ever kill me
you : what ?
godzilla : let's see now , 1st , they tried dissolving me (rips off his thumb) hahahaha , then , they tried freezing me (rips off his pointer finger) hahahahahaha , but this , this is my favorite , they even tried a black hole (rips off his middle finger) hahahahahahahahaha , (holds his hand back up , flexing all his fingers , including his regenerated fingers) but i just keep on tickin' , cuz that's my power
you : power ?
godzilla : regeneration , my power , with regeneration , i am IMMORTAL , too bad you're not
(legendary timeline)
godzilla : stick and stomes may break my bones , but nothing will ever kill me
you : what ?
godzilla : let's see now , 1st , they tried nuking me (rips off his thumb) hahahaha , then , they tried blasting me (rips off his pointer finger) hahahahahaha , but this , this is my favorite , they even tried a fryer bomb (rips off his middle finger) hahahahahahahahahaha , (holds his hand back up , flexing all his fingers , including his regenerated fingers) but i just keep on tickin' , cuz that's my power
you : power ?
godzilla : regeneration , my power , with regeneration , i am IMMORTAL , too bad you're not
MinecraftDinoKaiju,
After 3.5 years? Doubt it.
Have you seen Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare? It's just a play on a scene from the movie where Freddy explains he's immortal and can't die.
They said the same thing about 1) the Greek gods in IDW's Godzilla:Rage Across Time Issue 2 but Godzilla killed all of them except Zeus, then Godzilla killed him; and 2) Godzilla himself, but if that was the case why would Godzilla be in hell (IDW's Godzilla in Hell) unless he died; not to mentioned 3) that he has died at least 4-5 times in the franchise. Case in point, Godzilla is very durable, but he is neither indestructable nor immortal. Who agrees with me?